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375HH mag or 375 ultramag?
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<blockquote data-quote="hammertyme" data-source="post: 249090" data-attributes="member: 12863"><p>Since I live on Kodiak Island and know most of the long time guides here. I can easily say that the 375 H&H is the cartridge of choice up here for big bear.</p><p> </p><p>Overall in the same vain the most popular caliber of those I know, is the 338 Win Mag for all of our hunting needs. Yes the 250 grain bullet is the most common one even for deer hunting. Bigger is better but it also comes with a serious recoil issue. Now one can brake the heavy hitters and that is a choice. But, when it comes to protecting oneself we very seldom have time to put on hearing protection. Ever touch off a round on a braked gun in the brush?</p><p> </p><p>Having guided for many years it would be my personal opinion today as it was 30 years ago. Hunt with what you normally hunt with, in as large a caliber you are most accurate with. Moose go down easily with pretty much any caliber and a well placed shot. Bears can't read so are not impressed with ballistic charts.</p><p>If you place a 225gr 338 bullet where it belongs, you are more likely not going to have to dig an angry bear out of a brush pile. I own a 458 Win Mag now because a hunter bought it just for brownie's. The hunter had never owned anything that had this type of recoil and with a combination flinch and excitement he made a poor shot at under forty yards. AT the second shot the bears muzzle landed 12"s from the hunters boot.</p><p> </p><p>Along with this picture is one that recently happened. A gentlemen was after a 338 WIN Mag of mine for some time. The largest gun he had ever hunted with was an 06 and 150's for whitetail many years ago. I refused, telling him that I would loan him a Savage Weather Warrior and premium 180's. He got the chance and was going deer hunting for a week in heavily populated bear country. The week passed and while I was working outside saw the guy coming my way. AT 10-15 yards from me I saw the telltale bloody half circle on the bridge of the nose and above his eye. Very ugly and black eye and he had not shot the gun for the past five days. Its been 6 weeks now and I haven't heard a word about the 338 again.</p><p>In concluding, so many of us get caught up in the hype gun writers create. If two or three writers have something similar to say and throw in a couple of factory paid or supported famous hunters shooting whatever, then like this last guy, so many have to have it even though they know nothing about it.</p><p> </p><p>Just some personal experience. As always the choice is yours.</p><p> </p><p>Neal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hammertyme, post: 249090, member: 12863"] Since I live on Kodiak Island and know most of the long time guides here. I can easily say that the 375 H&H is the cartridge of choice up here for big bear. Overall in the same vain the most popular caliber of those I know, is the 338 Win Mag for all of our hunting needs. Yes the 250 grain bullet is the most common one even for deer hunting. Bigger is better but it also comes with a serious recoil issue. Now one can brake the heavy hitters and that is a choice. But, when it comes to protecting oneself we very seldom have time to put on hearing protection. Ever touch off a round on a braked gun in the brush? Having guided for many years it would be my personal opinion today as it was 30 years ago. Hunt with what you normally hunt with, in as large a caliber you are most accurate with. Moose go down easily with pretty much any caliber and a well placed shot. Bears can't read so are not impressed with ballistic charts. If you place a 225gr 338 bullet where it belongs, you are more likely not going to have to dig an angry bear out of a brush pile. I own a 458 Win Mag now because a hunter bought it just for brownie's. The hunter had never owned anything that had this type of recoil and with a combination flinch and excitement he made a poor shot at under forty yards. AT the second shot the bears muzzle landed 12"s from the hunters boot. Along with this picture is one that recently happened. A gentlemen was after a 338 WIN Mag of mine for some time. The largest gun he had ever hunted with was an 06 and 150's for whitetail many years ago. I refused, telling him that I would loan him a Savage Weather Warrior and premium 180's. He got the chance and was going deer hunting for a week in heavily populated bear country. The week passed and while I was working outside saw the guy coming my way. AT 10-15 yards from me I saw the telltale bloody half circle on the bridge of the nose and above his eye. Very ugly and black eye and he had not shot the gun for the past five days. Its been 6 weeks now and I haven't heard a word about the 338 again. In concluding, so many of us get caught up in the hype gun writers create. If two or three writers have something similar to say and throw in a couple of factory paid or supported famous hunters shooting whatever, then like this last guy, so many have to have it even though they know nothing about it. Just some personal experience. As always the choice is yours. Neal [/QUOTE]
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