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338 RUM or 338 Lapua
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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 283893" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>BH</p><p></p><p>I won't argue that some people will shoot brass more that 4 or 5 times . My reason</p><p>is based on real world experience (50 years of shooting ) and it just does not make sense</p><p>to use brass that long and risk ruining a hunt,match or a fine rifle over a piece of brass.</p><p></p><p>I never said that Lapua brass was not good , just over priced. Some brass will last a lot </p><p>longer that other and with care you can extend the life if you must.</p><p></p><p>I totally agree that you need the best component's for any rifle to be at it's best, but</p><p>any "well prepared brass" will shoot no matter how much you pay for it and I would be</p><p>surprised if there are 300 people on this site that have $3000 or more in there rifles</p><p>without the scope. Most just cant afford a "Custom" rifle if they have to buy the most </p><p>expensive components. </p><p></p><p>You don't have to use a custom action to build a rifle that will shoot 1/4 MOA just like you </p><p>don't have to use brass that cost 3 to 4 dollars each to make it shoot.</p><p></p><p>I think we are doing the new and not so wealthy shooters a disservice buy convincing</p><p>them that they have to spend $5,000 dollars in order to have a rifle that will measure </p><p>up to the top shooters/hunters on this site.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion the experienced shooters should try to get more people in the sport buy </p><p>starting them in a reasonable price range and then as they become more experienced they </p><p>can buy what ever they want and can afford.</p><p></p><p>I have had friends say they would like "Just one custom rifle" in there life. but couldn't</p><p>afford one because of the price. (Most though it would be $3500 + dollars because of</p><p>all the story's and prices of a build with custom parts.</p><p></p><p>I had to assure them that with some careful planning we should be able to rebuild one </p><p>of there poor shooting rifles into a real shooter for less than 12 to 1400 dollars.</p><p></p><p>My standard requirements for accuracy in any rifle is 1/2 MOA and this is doable and</p><p>at a reasonable cost.</p><p></p><p>And best of all they were all thrilled at the performance of there new custom rifle</p><p>and said they they had never had a rifle shoot one hole groups and as soon as they</p><p>could we would start on a new build.</p><p></p><p>I don't claim to be a master Gunsmith but I do know that an accurate rifle does not have </p><p>cost an arm and a leg and components should be reasonable.</p><p></p><p>For a first time custom build I always "Recommend" a standard factory round to make it </p><p>easier and a more pleasant experience for the person.</p><p></p><p>So the reason for writing the long winded post was to explain where I'm coming from</p><p>and why I steer first time custom rifle owners away from expensive builds.</p><p></p><p>And if a person is a long time shooter he/she probably knows what they want and what</p><p>they are willing to spend.</p><p></p><p>As a gunsmith I would love to have a blank checkbook on every build and would go with a</p><p>custom action ,barrel,stock and of course a $3500 dollar scope and $400dollar rings and bases.</p><p>because it would be easy to build and guarantee.</p><p></p><p>Enough said !!!</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 283893, member: 2736"] BH I won't argue that some people will shoot brass more that 4 or 5 times . My reason is based on real world experience (50 years of shooting ) and it just does not make sense to use brass that long and risk ruining a hunt,match or a fine rifle over a piece of brass. I never said that Lapua brass was not good , just over priced. Some brass will last a lot longer that other and with care you can extend the life if you must. I totally agree that you need the best component's for any rifle to be at it's best, but any "well prepared brass" will shoot no matter how much you pay for it and I would be surprised if there are 300 people on this site that have $3000 or more in there rifles without the scope. Most just cant afford a "Custom" rifle if they have to buy the most expensive components. You don't have to use a custom action to build a rifle that will shoot 1/4 MOA just like you don't have to use brass that cost 3 to 4 dollars each to make it shoot. I think we are doing the new and not so wealthy shooters a disservice buy convincing them that they have to spend $5,000 dollars in order to have a rifle that will measure up to the top shooters/hunters on this site. In my opinion the experienced shooters should try to get more people in the sport buy starting them in a reasonable price range and then as they become more experienced they can buy what ever they want and can afford. I have had friends say they would like "Just one custom rifle" in there life. but couldn't afford one because of the price. (Most though it would be $3500 + dollars because of all the story's and prices of a build with custom parts. I had to assure them that with some careful planning we should be able to rebuild one of there poor shooting rifles into a real shooter for less than 12 to 1400 dollars. My standard requirements for accuracy in any rifle is 1/2 MOA and this is doable and at a reasonable cost. And best of all they were all thrilled at the performance of there new custom rifle and said they they had never had a rifle shoot one hole groups and as soon as they could we would start on a new build. I don't claim to be a master Gunsmith but I do know that an accurate rifle does not have cost an arm and a leg and components should be reasonable. For a first time custom build I always "Recommend" a standard factory round to make it easier and a more pleasant experience for the person. So the reason for writing the long winded post was to explain where I'm coming from and why I steer first time custom rifle owners away from expensive builds. And if a person is a long time shooter he/she probably knows what they want and what they are willing to spend. As a gunsmith I would love to have a blank checkbook on every build and would go with a custom action ,barrel,stock and of course a $3500 dollar scope and $400dollar rings and bases. because it would be easy to build and guarantee. Enough said !!! J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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