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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 860227" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>I used to shoot a 7.21 Tomahawk and the brass I used in that chambering was the worst brass I had ever seen. I was having serious case head separation issues so finally decided to cross section one of the virgin cases. Just ahead of the solid case head, the case wall thickness was 20 thou thinner on one side then the other and you guessed it, that's the side that let loose every time. </p><p></p><p>E-mailed Lazzeroni to talk about the problem and see if I could get some replacement brass. Got a reply back from John himself and he said that I must have been mistaken as his brass was the best in the world and that there was a problem with the rifle.</p><p> </p><p>I replied that my measurements were taken off his VIRGIN brass so it had nothing to do with the rifle. He replied that I was simply unexperienced and that I did not know how to properly measure brass and that I was obviously doing something wrong to come up with these claims.</p><p> </p><p>I then offered to send him the cross sectioned brass so he could put his own calipers on the case walls and see for himself.</p><p> </p><p>The reply I got back after that was I was wrong, his brass was the most highly tested, best quality, strongest brass on the market to date.........</p><p> </p><p>Asked if there was any way to get a new lot of brass and he replied that his brass was made in one huge lot and that there would be no more Tomahawk brass made until this was sold out.......</p><p> </p><p>Sent him back a final e-mail saying, "So your saying ALL your Tomahawk brass is worthless?" Did not get a reply after that.....</p><p> </p><p>Now this was many years ago, hell, probably well over 10 years ago. I have no idea what the Tomahawk brass is like now. The reviews lately have been very good for the Lazzeroni short mag brass but I know that when I worked with it, it was very expensive and worthless. Worse then that was how John treated a customer. At that time, I was just a 30 year old kid that loved guns and high performance so I kind of just took it. Today I would have handled the situation a bit differently with the knowledge and experience I have gained since that time. Live and learn I guess.</p><p> </p><p>Hope your Lazz short mag brass keeps performing for you. For me, there are MUCH better choices out there. The WSM pretty much made the Lazz short mags obsolete as they work better in standard magnum bolt faced short action receivers, brass is very good and costs DRAMATICALLY less.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 860227, member: 10"] I used to shoot a 7.21 Tomahawk and the brass I used in that chambering was the worst brass I had ever seen. I was having serious case head separation issues so finally decided to cross section one of the virgin cases. Just ahead of the solid case head, the case wall thickness was 20 thou thinner on one side then the other and you guessed it, that's the side that let loose every time. E-mailed Lazzeroni to talk about the problem and see if I could get some replacement brass. Got a reply back from John himself and he said that I must have been mistaken as his brass was the best in the world and that there was a problem with the rifle. I replied that my measurements were taken off his VIRGIN brass so it had nothing to do with the rifle. He replied that I was simply unexperienced and that I did not know how to properly measure brass and that I was obviously doing something wrong to come up with these claims. I then offered to send him the cross sectioned brass so he could put his own calipers on the case walls and see for himself. The reply I got back after that was I was wrong, his brass was the most highly tested, best quality, strongest brass on the market to date......... Asked if there was any way to get a new lot of brass and he replied that his brass was made in one huge lot and that there would be no more Tomahawk brass made until this was sold out....... Sent him back a final e-mail saying, "So your saying ALL your Tomahawk brass is worthless?" Did not get a reply after that..... Now this was many years ago, hell, probably well over 10 years ago. I have no idea what the Tomahawk brass is like now. The reviews lately have been very good for the Lazzeroni short mag brass but I know that when I worked with it, it was very expensive and worthless. Worse then that was how John treated a customer. At that time, I was just a 30 year old kid that loved guns and high performance so I kind of just took it. Today I would have handled the situation a bit differently with the knowledge and experience I have gained since that time. Live and learn I guess. Hope your Lazz short mag brass keeps performing for you. For me, there are MUCH better choices out there. The WSM pretty much made the Lazz short mags obsolete as they work better in standard magnum bolt faced short action receivers, brass is very good and costs DRAMATICALLY less. [/QUOTE]
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