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338-300 WSM for a light elk rifle?
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<blockquote data-quote="Timber338" data-source="post: 721051" data-attributes="member: 33822"><p>I fully agree that a 338-300wsm is NOT a long range setup. It lacks the raw horsepower to push a heavy high b.c. 338 bullet fast enough to make it lethal at long range. I think everything that AZShooter says is right on that a 300wsm with heavy bergers will do a better job at long range than a 338-300wsm wildcat. And in the end is more versatile since it's 30 cal and you can get a factory rifle and standard dies.</p><p></p><p>With that said, for those of us that like to tinker, a 338-300wsm wildcat is just fun. I love .338 caliber for elk hunting and I think this wildcat is just about the perfect timber gun. And still is very viable for medium range shots maxing out around 700 yards.</p><p></p><p>I built my rifle around a Win M70 Extreme Weather rifle. The M70 short action is a bit longer than the remington short action, and I can seat Accubonds and Barnes TTSX .020 away from the lands and still fit in my magazine box. The barrel is a Pac-Nor 24" ultralight contour. Glass bedded the action. And I am actually very happy with the factory Winchester "MOA" trigger. 2.75 lbs at its lightest setting with a very crisp break. For optics I originally mounted a Leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 w/ talley lightweight rings. Fully outfitted with sling/bullets, the rifle weighed just under 7.5 pounds. </p><p></p><p>I can shoot the 250 Accubond accurately @ 2715 fps w/ RL-17. Over 4000 ft*lbs of energy is a whole lot in a 7.5 lb package. I think that beats a .30 cal 230 hybrid up close, although I admit either load would work great. Nobody can argue with Broz' tried and true results, near and far, with a berger.</p><p></p><p>My favorite and most accurate hunting load for the gun is a 210 TTSX seated -.050 from the lands over 68.5 grains of H4350. I was able to push the bullet over 2900 with a max load, they just were not as accurate. I am able to shoot 1/2 moa (and often times better) out to 700 yards. Since the gun has turned out to be such a shooter, I replaced the leupold with a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50. Added about 10 ounces to the setup but I think it was worth it. The 50mm objective gathers more light in the dark forests plus has the illuminated reticle. And I was able to reach out to 630 yards to drop a very nice bull on opening morning this year.</p><p></p><p>In the end I would have saved money had I gone with a 300wsm. But I would have been lucky to buy a factory rifle with the kind of accuracy I am getting out of the pac-nor barrel. And I have had a whole lot of fun with the wildcat. gun)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Timber338, post: 721051, member: 33822"] I fully agree that a 338-300wsm is NOT a long range setup. It lacks the raw horsepower to push a heavy high b.c. 338 bullet fast enough to make it lethal at long range. I think everything that AZShooter says is right on that a 300wsm with heavy bergers will do a better job at long range than a 338-300wsm wildcat. And in the end is more versatile since it's 30 cal and you can get a factory rifle and standard dies. With that said, for those of us that like to tinker, a 338-300wsm wildcat is just fun. I love .338 caliber for elk hunting and I think this wildcat is just about the perfect timber gun. And still is very viable for medium range shots maxing out around 700 yards. I built my rifle around a Win M70 Extreme Weather rifle. The M70 short action is a bit longer than the remington short action, and I can seat Accubonds and Barnes TTSX .020 away from the lands and still fit in my magazine box. The barrel is a Pac-Nor 24" ultralight contour. Glass bedded the action. And I am actually very happy with the factory Winchester "MOA" trigger. 2.75 lbs at its lightest setting with a very crisp break. For optics I originally mounted a Leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 w/ talley lightweight rings. Fully outfitted with sling/bullets, the rifle weighed just under 7.5 pounds. I can shoot the 250 Accubond accurately @ 2715 fps w/ RL-17. Over 4000 ft*lbs of energy is a whole lot in a 7.5 lb package. I think that beats a .30 cal 230 hybrid up close, although I admit either load would work great. Nobody can argue with Broz' tried and true results, near and far, with a berger. My favorite and most accurate hunting load for the gun is a 210 TTSX seated -.050 from the lands over 68.5 grains of H4350. I was able to push the bullet over 2900 with a max load, they just were not as accurate. I am able to shoot 1/2 moa (and often times better) out to 700 yards. Since the gun has turned out to be such a shooter, I replaced the leupold with a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50. Added about 10 ounces to the setup but I think it was worth it. The 50mm objective gathers more light in the dark forests plus has the illuminated reticle. And I was able to reach out to 630 yards to drop a very nice bull on opening morning this year. In the end I would have saved money had I gone with a 300wsm. But I would have been lucky to buy a factory rifle with the kind of accuracy I am getting out of the pac-nor barrel. And I have had a whole lot of fun with the wildcat. gun) [/QUOTE]
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