Ok, im not sure where in my head the H4831 came from, but the IMR 4350 was for a 275gr load for a lead bullet, so well disregaurd it for now. The speer bullet was a grand slam. The 250s went between 2300 and 2370. Ive got some data that runs from H414 up through the burnrate to BL-C(2) that he thinks he still has from the origional workup. He says the loads he is using are the same loads that we origionally developed. The best 3 were Vhit N135, AA 2520 and IMR-4064. he isn't sure on the charge weights, and said he'd call with them this evening after work. Ill post the charge wts when he calls. If you want the other data, ill see about scanning it... provided he can find it. Just a few pages I scribbled down during development. Nothing fancy.