338-06 Exploratory thread

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by DUKE NUKEM, Nov 4, 2007.

  1. DUKE NUKEM

    DUKE NUKEM Well-Known Member

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    I have a 338 Ultramag that is a powder hog. lol (I plan to keep it though)
    I am looking on building 3 338-06 heavy barrel rifles with parts that I have on hand (barrels, stocks, actions etc...)
    The said velocity with with a 250 grain SMK is around 2500 to 2550 with the down range velocity at 1000 yards of 1386 fps. I would use the full 28 inch length of the barrel to squeeze all the velocity I can get.

    Why 338-06?
    1. On hand 5000 maybe 10,000 unfired mil brass. (All would be loaded with 250 grain SMK's)
    2. Rifle would also work on big game in Northen States. (Moose, bear Elk....)
    3. 54 plus or minus grains of powder VS. 95 grains in the Ultramag.
    4. I want to have an insurance policy in case ammo ever runs out or is no longer available in quantities.
    4. Before anyone asks, I hunt off quads so weight is not the issue here. ;)
    TIA,
    Duke
     
  2. James Jones

    James Jones Well-Known Member

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    I think that the 338-06 is a great round , very effecient with plenty of power for elk at moderate ranges. I would probably opt for the Ackly improved version to help keep the brass life a bit. Your expected velocity of 2500fps is very reasonable , I have a friend that shoots a 338-06 Ai with 225gr bullets out of a 24" barrel right at 2700fps with no pressure signs at all he has mentioned that he tried some 250gr pills and got them to right at 2700fps before the bolt started to get sticks but thats a good ways into high pressure signs. I'm pretty sure he is using the new VV N-550 powders. This powder is said to be hard of barrels but I think that with the bore to bowder ratio of the 338-06 it shoulden't be any trouble at all till mayeb 3000 rounds !!

    I don't think I would shoot game with the 250gr SMK at these speeds as they might not open reliably. I know that the Nosler Balistic tip bullets in .338m cal are alot tougher than the smaller cals like 30 and 7mm so those might be a good option also.
     

  3. devildoc

    devildoc Well-Known Member

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    Send me one that you build and I'd be happy to test it for you,....free of charge even. ;)
     
  4. ukenout

    ukenout Well-Known Member

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    I have a 338-06 built from a mauser 98 action. Though not intended for a long range rig, it does shoot very accurate with my handloads, 54 gr IMR 4064, 200gr Nos.BT's. Have used it to stop many a deer in their tracks. I only have a sporter A&B barrel on it, but it shoots great for my purpose. I too have wondered if it could be used to really stretch out and reach critters at long distance, however many people have said it is a not suited for 300 plus yards??? Keep us informed on your progress.
     
  5. Wild_Bill

    Wild_Bill Well-Known Member

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    338-06

    Hi go with a 338-06 improved as you will get more performance with better headspace
    especily if using ex mil cases as they have a smaler capacity to start with.

    Try the 225gr accubonds they are a perfect fit in the 338-06AI

    If you wanted you could also shorten the neck and fireform the cases out to get more capacity.

    Cheers Bill
    Australia
     
  6. blackco

    blackco Well-Known Member

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    First let me sat that I am a FIRM believer in AI's. That said; you already have a very "improved" 338, if you are trying to reduce powder use etc. I think I would stay away from the improved version of the 338-06. EVERY reason stated by the others for doing an AI is dead spot on but against the reasons for building these rifles. If you need better case life, more velocity, and heavier bullets, shoot the RUM.

    However, if you do decide to go with the AI version, I will be glad to help fire-form all those rounds with you, heck, if you make good coffee I might even help you load 'em.
     
  7. two bears

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    I just received my 338-06 barrel from Thompson Center custom shop for my Encore. Its a SS heavy barrel 26 inches long with a muzzletamer.I put a limb savior recoil pad and resonator on the encore. I'm also using hornady 200 grain spiral points and IMR 4064 for my handloads. I loaded it just a tad over 2500 FPS.Sighted it in at 2 and half inches high at 100 yds. The groups are less than an inch.I can't wait to use it for deer season this year.
     
  8. ukenout

    ukenout Well-Known Member

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    Two Bears,
    I don't think you'll be dissapointed! I have yet to trail a deer i've shot here in MS. All have dropped in their tracks with only one going less that 10 yards.
     
  9. two bears

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    Ukenout , Thanks , I will find out next weekend when opening day for deer begins . I'm impressed with the Encore 338-06 with the limbsavior pad , resonator and muzzletamer installed . Very little recoil , its a pleasure to shoot. Plus I can use it for , bear , caribou , elk , hogs and moose. Good Luck Hunting !
     
  10. Tyler Kemp

    Tyler Kemp SPONSOR

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    Did you know it is actually Limbsaver?

    Limbsavior made me crack up!
     
  11. WyoHunter

    WyoHunter Active Member

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    My .338-06 is a pre-64 M70 Win that has had the barrel rebored from .30 to .338. My 210 Noslers chronographed at 2810 fps and 250 Noslers at 2575 from the 24 inch barrel. Works great on elk and moose!
     
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