Ok I just had another log thrown on the fire I am going elk hunting next fall and Im looking for a rifle. I want something that will shoot good out of the box I probably wont shoot over 600 yds. I have been inquireing about the weatherby .300wby vanguard sub-moa and the 300rum ina sandero. But then I found the .325 in a savage that I understand are very good out of the box. I will probobly only use this for elk 3 or four times mostly for whitetail and muelys.