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<blockquote data-quote="M67" data-source="post: 975024" data-attributes="member: 26259"><p>Inside and under aircondition - shooting has actually been rather low this summer. Incredible heat - what about 32°C air and 23°C water - at 67°North?</p><p> </p><p>The warm weather comes from a large high pressure system, that put the whole country under subsidence, hence low winds (none at at night) and shooting conditions we rarely see. One side effect was an insane number of bugs in the mountains, and actually (some places) a ban on shooting for risk of forest fires.</p><p> </p><p>After a few days of bathing i got up into the hills at night, and set up to shoot at 1000m. The location is such that i can just drive the car off the road and range whichever rock i want in the shallow valley. I measured a rock quite exactly 1m tall, to 1012m, so walked the 12m and sat down. 920hPa and 22°, and 10.3mrads said the computer. There was no discernible wind whatsoever, almost laboratory conditions - i hit the rock quite low, almost missed, on the first shot, didnt like that - but i shot a group on it - and as i could easily see the spots from the hits, i called it .4 low and noted that. My velocity was at this point more or less guessed.., I adjusted it to 875m/s and got the correct amout of adjustment.</p><p> </p><p>Beeing me, i feel a 30cm 5 shot group at 1000m is not so bad, also given the bugs, tha made me forget the camera... I turned around measured another rock, 600m and repeated the exercise, now on a much smaller rock - but spot on. </p><p>Now arrived a "wohnmobile" with some Dutch tourists marveling about midnight sun, so i packed it in. The german travel handbooks show EVERY side road and interesting spot in an area, and this place is sure beautiful, i'll give them that.</p><p> </p><p>I decided to go back to close range, and called the HH of the local gun club: yes i could use the range..</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/S1120001_zps5bf44597.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><em>Old "Skytterlag" - ranges are all the same, Norway has an abundance of good, ranges, now mostly equipped with KME og Megalink electronic targets at 100 and 200m, although some retain their 300m ranges</em></p><p> </p><p>Paper shooting at 200m revealed that the silencer moves the impact 0.4 down and, more irritating 0.2 right - this is indeed a flaw, and makes it less fun to use the silencer, nice as it is. Some fine tuning of zero is always good to do anyway.</p><p> </p><p>I could not resist shooting at a small rock somewhat short of 500m away as i finished the session.</p><p>[ame="http://youtu.be/MX6A9LIHuns"]308Win / 175gr Scenar L trueing shots @ 480m - YouTube[/ame]</p><p><em>A bit right, still, but there might be some wind after all.</em></p><p> </p><p>Another trip a couple days later only revealed a bunch of Germans, and i decided to walk to location - this took me to a nice encounter with a moose</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://youtu.be/MRptfOO977o?list=UUhqZ_vGynlYI4Ky3SwRO-nA" target="_blank">elg i solnedgang - YouTube</a></p><p><em>I know the guy that owns the land, and he keeps his moose well <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> Moose hunting is religion and beyond up here.</em></p><p> </p><p>This time i set up a cardboard target at 917m, close to the magic 1000yards, and shot at it - this is blind shooting, i cannot spot bullet holes at 1k. Anyways, 5 shots revealed a 24cm 4shot group about 20cm right, but with correct elevation. The 5 shot opened the group to 60cm - low and all the way on the other side of the board.</p><p> </p><p>Some driving, and some more bathing on the way - took me to my friend, forum member Yrcan. He keeps a "Range" for LR shooting, and has steel targets in all directions and ranges.</p><p>The night we arrived we went straight out and shot, but I was marked by a long hot day, and hungry - home and fire up the BBQ.</p><p> </p><p>Morning after, "what do you want to shoot" he said. I decided to start at 800m, since this is, after all, a 308... He keeps tiny targets too, and is very concerned about 1. shot hits, and not so much groups. To my satisfaction:</p><p> </p><p>[ame="http://youtu.be/26Uym26Hw30"]308Win / 175gr Scenar L @ 800m - YouTube[/ame]</p><p><em>1. shot hits are always nice</em></p><p> </p><p><em><img src="http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/200C3B2A-7A0D-4FA7-84F2-57D6F11082EB_zpsb7orbwsw.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></em></p><p><em>Yrcans range</em></p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/S1130002_zpseac34107.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><em>Laden with experience, Yrcan is one of the very good spotters - the Meopta is also a very good scope.</em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Quite a few rounds went down going back and forth between 800, 945, 1090, 1180m - and heavy mirage made shooting difficult. The main thing was anyways, rifle and ammo were consistent, and we could actually see our impacts come higher as temperature rose - also we had some back wind onto the hill, that seemed to account for about 0.2mrad @ 1k.</p><p> </p><p>I finally decided to try the 1230 gong, but could not hit it, and the grass swalloved bullets quite nicely - "lost in space".</p><p>A rock solid solution:</p><p>[ame="http://youtu.be/30ASqsALbIY"]308Win / 175gr Scenar L @ 1270m - YouTube[/ame]</p><p><em>Very impressive it might not be, but is is on the advertised 17mrad, and it is over 1400 yards.</em></p><p> </p><p>I did some shooting at 500 and at 1010 and 1025m last weekend. Wind was 4-5, even 7-8m/s and in hilly terrain that makes for interesting shooting. Evenso, i managed to get a rather good looking 500m target, with 5 shots in 60mm.</p><p> </p><p>At 600m it looked like this</p><p><img src="http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/8AE4B48E-1EA0-4EEA-97F5-0FAEE65E339F_zpsycezgpza.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><em>upper right shot is from dialing 0.1 up - range is estimated here, using the reticle, hence the initial group is low</em></p><p> </p><p>Walking up the hill to shoot further a had to do alone, 80m of elevation can be a lot <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>The 40x40 gongs proved difficult at 1025m, but i believe i had 7 hits out of 17 shots.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/BA93AC50-3720-4F00-A333-4B961F59F11D_zpso0zqbxiz.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><em>I then tried a group on paper at 1010m. Note "organic" gong hanger.</em></p><p> </p><p>Target setup, it is a bit difficult since 308 bullets are all but unspottable in the grass, anyway. I got all 5 on paper, 1x1m, i was even satisfied with that, in the winds that had me dial 2.0mrad right. Group was 43cm, good elevation, save one shot (again) but sideways spread. No wind flags.</p><p> </p><p>The gang out shooting, </p><p><img src="http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/29B1C438-D8E0-4C60-8CCA-7123F9579359_zpstlt6acta.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p> </p><p>Going back up the hill today, this time also with some 175gr NCCs, courtesy of Sauer 150 - they did well at 500m, i'll see them at 1025m and 1235m hopefully today - winds are supposed to be low, so im hoping. Anyways, westerlies are more manageable than easterlies at this range.</p><p> </p><p>K</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="M67, post: 975024, member: 26259"] Inside and under aircondition - shooting has actually been rather low this summer. Incredible heat - what about 32°C air and 23°C water - at 67°North? The warm weather comes from a large high pressure system, that put the whole country under subsidence, hence low winds (none at at night) and shooting conditions we rarely see. One side effect was an insane number of bugs in the mountains, and actually (some places) a ban on shooting for risk of forest fires. After a few days of bathing i got up into the hills at night, and set up to shoot at 1000m. The location is such that i can just drive the car off the road and range whichever rock i want in the shallow valley. I measured a rock quite exactly 1m tall, to 1012m, so walked the 12m and sat down. 920hPa and 22°, and 10.3mrads said the computer. There was no discernible wind whatsoever, almost laboratory conditions - i hit the rock quite low, almost missed, on the first shot, didnt like that - but i shot a group on it - and as i could easily see the spots from the hits, i called it .4 low and noted that. My velocity was at this point more or less guessed.., I adjusted it to 875m/s and got the correct amout of adjustment. Beeing me, i feel a 30cm 5 shot group at 1000m is not so bad, also given the bugs, tha made me forget the camera... I turned around measured another rock, 600m and repeated the exercise, now on a much smaller rock - but spot on. Now arrived a "wohnmobile" with some Dutch tourists marveling about midnight sun, so i packed it in. The german travel handbooks show EVERY side road and interesting spot in an area, and this place is sure beautiful, i'll give them that. I decided to go back to close range, and called the HH of the local gun club: yes i could use the range.. [IMG]http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/S1120001_zps5bf44597.jpg[/IMG] [I]Old "Skytterlag" - ranges are all the same, Norway has an abundance of good, ranges, now mostly equipped with KME og Megalink electronic targets at 100 and 200m, although some retain their 300m ranges[/I] Paper shooting at 200m revealed that the silencer moves the impact 0.4 down and, more irritating 0.2 right - this is indeed a flaw, and makes it less fun to use the silencer, nice as it is. Some fine tuning of zero is always good to do anyway. I could not resist shooting at a small rock somewhat short of 500m away as i finished the session. [ame="http://youtu.be/MX6A9LIHuns"]308Win / 175gr Scenar L trueing shots @ 480m - YouTube[/ame] [I]A bit right, still, but there might be some wind after all.[/I] Another trip a couple days later only revealed a bunch of Germans, and i decided to walk to location - this took me to a nice encounter with a moose [URL="http://youtu.be/MRptfOO977o?list=UUhqZ_vGynlYI4Ky3SwRO-nA"]elg i solnedgang - YouTube[/URL] [I]I know the guy that owns the land, and he keeps his moose well ;) Moose hunting is religion and beyond up here.[/I] This time i set up a cardboard target at 917m, close to the magic 1000yards, and shot at it - this is blind shooting, i cannot spot bullet holes at 1k. Anyways, 5 shots revealed a 24cm 4shot group about 20cm right, but with correct elevation. The 5 shot opened the group to 60cm - low and all the way on the other side of the board. Some driving, and some more bathing on the way - took me to my friend, forum member Yrcan. He keeps a "Range" for LR shooting, and has steel targets in all directions and ranges. The night we arrived we went straight out and shot, but I was marked by a long hot day, and hungry - home and fire up the BBQ. Morning after, "what do you want to shoot" he said. I decided to start at 800m, since this is, after all, a 308... He keeps tiny targets too, and is very concerned about 1. shot hits, and not so much groups. To my satisfaction: [ame="http://youtu.be/26Uym26Hw30"]308Win / 175gr Scenar L @ 800m - YouTube[/ame] [I]1. shot hits are always nice[/I] [I][IMG]http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/200C3B2A-7A0D-4FA7-84F2-57D6F11082EB_zpsb7orbwsw.jpg[/IMG][/I] [I]Yrcans range[/I] [IMG]http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/S1130002_zpseac34107.jpg[/IMG] [I]Laden with experience, Yrcan is one of the very good spotters - the Meopta is also a very good scope.[/I] Quite a few rounds went down going back and forth between 800, 945, 1090, 1180m - and heavy mirage made shooting difficult. The main thing was anyways, rifle and ammo were consistent, and we could actually see our impacts come higher as temperature rose - also we had some back wind onto the hill, that seemed to account for about 0.2mrad @ 1k. I finally decided to try the 1230 gong, but could not hit it, and the grass swalloved bullets quite nicely - "lost in space". A rock solid solution: [ame="http://youtu.be/30ASqsALbIY"]308Win / 175gr Scenar L @ 1270m - YouTube[/ame] [I]Very impressive it might not be, but is is on the advertised 17mrad, and it is over 1400 yards.[/I] I did some shooting at 500 and at 1010 and 1025m last weekend. Wind was 4-5, even 7-8m/s and in hilly terrain that makes for interesting shooting. Evenso, i managed to get a rather good looking 500m target, with 5 shots in 60mm. At 600m it looked like this [IMG]http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/8AE4B48E-1EA0-4EEA-97F5-0FAEE65E339F_zpsycezgpza.jpg[/IMG] [I]upper right shot is from dialing 0.1 up - range is estimated here, using the reticle, hence the initial group is low[/I] Walking up the hill to shoot further a had to do alone, 80m of elevation can be a lot ;) The 40x40 gongs proved difficult at 1025m, but i believe i had 7 hits out of 17 shots. [IMG]http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/BA93AC50-3720-4F00-A333-4B961F59F11D_zpso0zqbxiz.jpg[/IMG] [I]I then tried a group on paper at 1010m. Note "organic" gong hanger.[/I] Target setup, it is a bit difficult since 308 bullets are all but unspottable in the grass, anyway. I got all 5 on paper, 1x1m, i was even satisfied with that, in the winds that had me dial 2.0mrad right. Group was 43cm, good elevation, save one shot (again) but sideways spread. No wind flags. The gang out shooting, [IMG]http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w560/kristerE/29B1C438-D8E0-4C60-8CCA-7123F9579359_zpstlt6acta.jpg[/IMG] Going back up the hill today, this time also with some 175gr NCCs, courtesy of Sauer 150 - they did well at 500m, i'll see them at 1025m and 1235m hopefully today - winds are supposed to be low, so im hoping. Anyways, westerlies are more manageable than easterlies at this range. K [/QUOTE]
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