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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Eichele" data-source="post: 567113" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>Nothing wrong with a 12x 26" 308. It is actually a great combo all around. The 12x will stabilize many 200 grain pills but is NOT optimum. The 190 SMK is still stretching it as well. The 190/12x combo is not horrible but on the edge of optimum to sub optimum. At least at 308 velocities. 180 class bullets and less will perform great. The 180 SMK however has too small of a BC to velocity ratio for 1K shooting. For 1K shooting you will need to look to the 190 SMK or 175 SMK. The 168 SMK has the same problem as the 180 SMK. Stay away from these 2 bullets for seriouos 1K shooting. The 155's will make it to 1K with ease as well. If driven fast enough, the 168 and 178 AMAX can make it as well.</p><p></p><p>I have had very poor results at other than short ranges with the SMK's on game at 308 velocities. I would keep the SMK's for the vermin and use a real bullet for long range deer. </p><p></p><p>There are very few 308/load combos that will do well on big game past 600 yards but up to 600 yards, the 308 is VERY capable. Much more than many will give it credit for. The 12x 308 combo can't handle the bullets that can stretch the 308's abilities to be an real effective big game killer out to 800-1000 yards. All that said, just about any good hunting bullet or AMAX (168 or heavier) will do well on deer up to 600 yards. </p><p></p><p>I don't recomend the 155 AMAX. I have personally lost a deer (at short range) to one and watched a buddy loose a 40" Dall ram at mid range with them. I watched the impact on the ram and it was a great shot. We could have just been two very unfortunate hunters with unfortunate circumstances. Was it the bullet? Who knows. Maybe not but after 2 occurences, I wont test fate for a 3rd. The 168 and 178's have been flawless on many occasions on deer size game.</p><p></p><p>My recommended loads for 600 and sub 600 yard deer would be the 150 ACCUBOND, 175 Barnes LRX, 178 AMAX. Not in any order.</p><p></p><p>RL15, VV N540, BENCHMARK, H4895 are all great powders for the 308 with up to 180 grain bullets. RL15 is not nearly as unstable as many shooter would have you believe. Any powder used for development at 60 degrees running max loads will give you trouble when you shoot in 100 degree temps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Eichele, post: 567113, member: 1007"] Nothing wrong with a 12x 26" 308. It is actually a great combo all around. The 12x will stabilize many 200 grain pills but is NOT optimum. The 190 SMK is still stretching it as well. The 190/12x combo is not horrible but on the edge of optimum to sub optimum. At least at 308 velocities. 180 class bullets and less will perform great. The 180 SMK however has too small of a BC to velocity ratio for 1K shooting. For 1K shooting you will need to look to the 190 SMK or 175 SMK. The 168 SMK has the same problem as the 180 SMK. Stay away from these 2 bullets for seriouos 1K shooting. The 155's will make it to 1K with ease as well. If driven fast enough, the 168 and 178 AMAX can make it as well. I have had very poor results at other than short ranges with the SMK's on game at 308 velocities. I would keep the SMK's for the vermin and use a real bullet for long range deer. There are very few 308/load combos that will do well on big game past 600 yards but up to 600 yards, the 308 is VERY capable. Much more than many will give it credit for. The 12x 308 combo can't handle the bullets that can stretch the 308's abilities to be an real effective big game killer out to 800-1000 yards. All that said, just about any good hunting bullet or AMAX (168 or heavier) will do well on deer up to 600 yards. I don't recomend the 155 AMAX. I have personally lost a deer (at short range) to one and watched a buddy loose a 40" Dall ram at mid range with them. I watched the impact on the ram and it was a great shot. We could have just been two very unfortunate hunters with unfortunate circumstances. Was it the bullet? Who knows. Maybe not but after 2 occurences, I wont test fate for a 3rd. The 168 and 178's have been flawless on many occasions on deer size game. My recommended loads for 600 and sub 600 yard deer would be the 150 ACCUBOND, 175 Barnes LRX, 178 AMAX. Not in any order. RL15, VV N540, BENCHMARK, H4895 are all great powders for the 308 with up to 180 grain bullets. RL15 is not nearly as unstable as many shooter would have you believe. Any powder used for development at 60 degrees running max loads will give you trouble when you shoot in 100 degree temps. [/QUOTE]
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