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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 807368" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>David,</p><p></p><p>You're right about the speed of sound in different mediums. Didn't think of it as I usually think of it in terms of Mach and atmosphere.</p><p></p><p>Also glossed ovwer the :barrels" part of the bedding you mentioned, and I have heard of different techniques of bedding barrels or putting pressure points on them to modify the harmonics or vibrations for better accuracy and consistency. I tend to shy away from that as I think that environmental conditions could affect the fore end of the stock and cause inconsistencies in the pressure it puts on the barrel. I have heard it has been used successfully sometimes and I have heard that putting a shim or wrapping the barrel with tape for contact will sometimes correct a poor shooting barrel.</p><p></p><p>The Quickload program does sound interesting.. still a little skeptical but I might try it someday. For you, I would dismiss the 180's at higher velocities because the program suggests they won't work. I think they are worth giving a try but that's your call and there isn't a lot of difference between 165 and 180.</p><p></p><p>You mentioned KE as part of your critieria for choosing. I think it can be a little missleading because velocity (squared) is is a much more significant part of the equation than mass. I put a little more weight <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> on momentum than KE.</p><p></p><p>For short range hunting (less than 500 yds), E-Tips are my first choice because of their tough construction. They are made of guilded metal which is tougher than the copper Barnes mono's. When they expand they produce a wide flat frontal than any other bullets I know, which produces more shock, trauma and a wider wound channel. And comparing to the Partitions, they have a tough trauma resistant tip and higher BC.</p><p></p><p>For LR work, my 2 first choices are Cutting Edge and Berger bullets for BC and down range expansion. I'll shoot whichever one of those i think will give me best overall down range results with emphasis on accuracy.</p><p></p><p>Keep us posted on your progress.</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 807368, member: 11717"] David, You're right about the speed of sound in different mediums. Didn't think of it as I usually think of it in terms of Mach and atmosphere. Also glossed ovwer the :barrels" part of the bedding you mentioned, and I have heard of different techniques of bedding barrels or putting pressure points on them to modify the harmonics or vibrations for better accuracy and consistency. I tend to shy away from that as I think that environmental conditions could affect the fore end of the stock and cause inconsistencies in the pressure it puts on the barrel. I have heard it has been used successfully sometimes and I have heard that putting a shim or wrapping the barrel with tape for contact will sometimes correct a poor shooting barrel. The Quickload program does sound interesting.. still a little skeptical but I might try it someday. For you, I would dismiss the 180's at higher velocities because the program suggests they won't work. I think they are worth giving a try but that's your call and there isn't a lot of difference between 165 and 180. You mentioned KE as part of your critieria for choosing. I think it can be a little missleading because velocity (squared) is is a much more significant part of the equation than mass. I put a little more weight :) on momentum than KE. For short range hunting (less than 500 yds), E-Tips are my first choice because of their tough construction. They are made of guilded metal which is tougher than the copper Barnes mono's. When they expand they produce a wide flat frontal than any other bullets I know, which produces more shock, trauma and a wider wound channel. And comparing to the Partitions, they have a tough trauma resistant tip and higher BC. For LR work, my 2 first choices are Cutting Edge and Berger bullets for BC and down range expansion. I'll shoot whichever one of those i think will give me best overall down range results with emphasis on accuracy. Keep us posted on your progress. Cheers [/QUOTE]
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