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<blockquote data-quote="Darryl Cassel" data-source="post: 985" data-attributes="member: 34"><p>Hello Ric and Boyd</p><p></p><p>Ric, I think that Boyd hit the nail on the head concerning "Any 30 Cal Magnum" such as, but not limited to, 308 Norma mag, 300 Win Mag, 300 Weatherby mag, 300 RUM will do what you want it to do using the 220 Gr bullets out to 1000 or 1250 yards.</p><p>I also have to agree with Boyd that I would go with the 300 RUM because it is just a step BEHIND the Most powerful 30 cal, the 30/378 or the 30/378 IMP or the 30/416 Rigby IMP.--The problem with the last three calibers mentioned is, they need a big custom action at a price tag of $1250.00 or more just for that action and to use the larger cases. You can use a Weatherby action in the 378 bolt face but you would have to take a Weatherby rifle apart and now you may be better off buying a custom action anyway.</p><p>The Remington and Savage actions don't have enough meat in the bolt face to take them out to the 378 base diameter. It would not be wise to do so anyway because the 378 is much more powerfull then the 300 RUM.</p><p></p><p>The nice thing about the 300 RUM is, you can put it on a Standard Mag action such as a Remington or Savage and they will hold up under the 300 RUM pressures. </p><p></p><p>It (The 300 RUM) will never be as powerfull or take away the name "King of The 30s" from the 30/378 or the other two I mentioned. The powder capacity is over 23 grs more in my 416 Rigby IMP case then the 300 RUM has. The standard 378 has 12 more grains capacity over the 300 RUM. </p><p>So you see, the larger style cases that incoorporate the 378 or 416 case is, and will continue to be, more powerfull then the 300 RUM or the Tomahawk in the 30 cal.</p><p>They have to be classified as the "second" best thirty calibers.</p><p></p><p>If I were Ric (Ric, I'm not shaking my head now) I would go with the 300 RUM with a 10 twist barrel as long (28 to 30" at least) as I could have and use off of my horse.</p><p></p><p>If you ran out of ammo, you could buy them at your local gun shop if need be. </p><p>Maybe Federal will come through unless they already have because the Remington brass is not the best but, would be fine for hunting purposes.</p><p></p><p>To sum this up, A 300 RUM or the 300 Tomahawk will not dethrone the 30/378 and 30/378 IMP style cases in the hunting fields. Just too much powder capacity difference.</p><p>The 300 RUM would be my choice in Rics situation. I believe he already has a Savage mag. action to use. </p><p></p><p>You fellows are doing a fine job asking and answering questions on this or any forum.</p><p></p><p>Glad to respond and try to help---ANYTIME.</p><p></p><p>Ric, see you in Harrisburg.</p><p>Boyd, See you at the Williamsport Range.</p><p></p><p>Later</p><p>Darryl Cassel</p><p>PS--The smell of burning gun powder makes me "Horney" and always has. It don't take much even at my age. hehehehehe</p><p></p><p>[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darryl Cassel, post: 985, member: 34"] Hello Ric and Boyd Ric, I think that Boyd hit the nail on the head concerning "Any 30 Cal Magnum" such as, but not limited to, 308 Norma mag, 300 Win Mag, 300 Weatherby mag, 300 RUM will do what you want it to do using the 220 Gr bullets out to 1000 or 1250 yards. I also have to agree with Boyd that I would go with the 300 RUM because it is just a step BEHIND the Most powerful 30 cal, the 30/378 or the 30/378 IMP or the 30/416 Rigby IMP.--The problem with the last three calibers mentioned is, they need a big custom action at a price tag of $1250.00 or more just for that action and to use the larger cases. You can use a Weatherby action in the 378 bolt face but you would have to take a Weatherby rifle apart and now you may be better off buying a custom action anyway. The Remington and Savage actions don't have enough meat in the bolt face to take them out to the 378 base diameter. It would not be wise to do so anyway because the 378 is much more powerfull then the 300 RUM. The nice thing about the 300 RUM is, you can put it on a Standard Mag action such as a Remington or Savage and they will hold up under the 300 RUM pressures. It (The 300 RUM) will never be as powerfull or take away the name "King of The 30s" from the 30/378 or the other two I mentioned. The powder capacity is over 23 grs more in my 416 Rigby IMP case then the 300 RUM has. The standard 378 has 12 more grains capacity over the 300 RUM. So you see, the larger style cases that incoorporate the 378 or 416 case is, and will continue to be, more powerfull then the 300 RUM or the Tomahawk in the 30 cal. They have to be classified as the "second" best thirty calibers. If I were Ric (Ric, I'm not shaking my head now) I would go with the 300 RUM with a 10 twist barrel as long (28 to 30" at least) as I could have and use off of my horse. If you ran out of ammo, you could buy them at your local gun shop if need be. Maybe Federal will come through unless they already have because the Remington brass is not the best but, would be fine for hunting purposes. To sum this up, A 300 RUM or the 300 Tomahawk will not dethrone the 30/378 and 30/378 IMP style cases in the hunting fields. Just too much powder capacity difference. The 300 RUM would be my choice in Rics situation. I believe he already has a Savage mag. action to use. You fellows are doing a fine job asking and answering questions on this or any forum. Glad to respond and try to help---ANYTIME. Ric, see you in Harrisburg. Boyd, See you at the Williamsport Range. Later Darryl Cassel PS--The smell of burning gun powder makes me "Horney" and always has. It don't take much even at my age. hehehehehe [ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ] [/QUOTE]
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