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<blockquote data-quote="chessman" data-source="post: 10498" data-attributes="member: 2451"><p>Now this is an interesting discussion. My Dad has a WBY Vanguard in 300 WBY. Cheap gun, and not high on my list, but Dad wanted to take it hunting with me. I watched Dad take a little Coues spike at 464 yards and a single shot. That rifle has always produced sub-moa groups with factory ammo, and much tighter groups with handloads. </p><p></p><p>Now, that said, I prefer the .300 RUM, although I've never owned one. I am also not a Remington fan, and I've owned several of them. I just never liked the actions. No debate that they are accurate enough, just not my favorite. </p><p></p><p>I am surprised that nobody here suggested the Savage as a bargain that should be considered against the other two. I bought a Savage 10FP last year in .308. Out of the box with my own loads I get sub-moa groups at 1000 yards, and one ragged little hole in five shots at 100 yards. Not bad for a rifle I paid less than $600 for! I love the Accutrigger, and can rebarrel the rifle in less than half an hour with no special tools other than the barrel nut wrench. If you are on a budget, you might consider setting up a Savage in a nice stock, with one great scope, and two barrels in different chamberings to provide the best of both worlds.</p><p></p><p>As for freebore – I hate it. The whole theory of leaving the bullet piloted by an expanding neck just seems wrong. However, I've seen a number of rifles that had what I would call excessive freebore that shot great. From that, I have learned that there is a handful of dimensions that need to be kept tight and in the proper relationship to produce outstanding results. I have friends who have spent fortunes on their rifles and gained no improvement over what the factory rifle did. Everything the gunsmith did was the best way to do every step – in one theory or another – but the parts and pieces just weren't happy together. </p><p></p><p>Most major arms manufacturers have developed a recipe that produces good results in their rifles. If you take bits of one recipe and combine it with bits from another recipe you may make a better rifle, and you might wind up with a really expensive, and highly inaccurate rifle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chessman, post: 10498, member: 2451"] Now this is an interesting discussion. My Dad has a WBY Vanguard in 300 WBY. Cheap gun, and not high on my list, but Dad wanted to take it hunting with me. I watched Dad take a little Coues spike at 464 yards and a single shot. That rifle has always produced sub-moa groups with factory ammo, and much tighter groups with handloads. Now, that said, I prefer the .300 RUM, although I’ve never owned one. I am also not a Remington fan, and I’ve owned several of them. I just never liked the actions. No debate that they are accurate enough, just not my favorite. I am surprised that nobody here suggested the Savage as a bargain that should be considered against the other two. I bought a Savage 10FP last year in .308. Out of the box with my own loads I get sub-moa groups at 1000 yards, and one ragged little hole in five shots at 100 yards. Not bad for a rifle I paid less than $600 for! I love the Accutrigger, and can rebarrel the rifle in less than half an hour with no special tools other than the barrel nut wrench. If you are on a budget, you might consider setting up a Savage in a nice stock, with one great scope, and two barrels in different chamberings to provide the best of both worlds. As for freebore – I hate it. The whole theory of leaving the bullet piloted by an expanding neck just seems wrong. However, I’ve seen a number of rifles that had what I would call excessive freebore that shot great. From that, I have learned that there is a handful of dimensions that need to be kept tight and in the proper relationship to produce outstanding results. I have friends who have spent fortunes on their rifles and gained no improvement over what the factory rifle did. Everything the gunsmith did was the best way to do every step – in one theory or another – but the parts and pieces just weren’t happy together. Most major arms manufacturers have developed a recipe that produces good results in their rifles. If you take bits of one recipe and combine it with bits from another recipe you may make a better rifle, and you might wind up with a really expensive, and highly inaccurate rifle. [/QUOTE]
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