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<blockquote data-quote="Brent" data-source="post: 10494" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>Len,</p><p> I re-read your post, must have been a little unclear to me late that night, as it made perfect sense when I re-read it just now. <img src="http://images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p>Do you think that the spring back in the brass would still be nearly the same after firing if the brass had slight variations in thickness, which could be accounting for some of the case weight variations? </p><p></p><p>Food for thought though - If the outside dimentions of the cases were all the same at the time of measuring with water, diameter at neck, shoulder, base, headspace, and the OAL, I just figure (assume) the water weight means the internal "space" has to be the same... or it wouldn't hold that volume/weight of water. </p><p></p><p>KardiacKid,</p><p> I disagree with most of your post, so I figured I'd just highlight the opposite stuff. <img src="http://images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><strong> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> The Weatherby uses a Kreiger button rifled barrel which is a good barrel. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></strong> </p><p>Okay, I like that part, but they screwed it up by putting it on a WBY action. <img src="http://images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> Probably why they only guarantee 1.5" groups out of them. <img src="http://images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> My sons little fetherweight 308 does that with any factory ammo, so does darn near anything else I've ever shot. </p><p></p><p><strong> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> The bottom line is that Wby has a guarantee on accuracy which tells you what you need to know. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE></strong> </p><p>I guess a guy can read that two ways....</p><p></p><p>AJ cleared up the rest quite well. <img src="http://images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p><strong> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> I have read and re-read the headspace issue starting with this site. If the gun shoots well - who cares ?</strong></p><p> <strong><HR></BLOCKQUOTE></strong> </p><p>Minimal headspace serves two ends; one is to offer resistance upon primer strike and keep the case from excessively stretching, the other is to better center the case neck in the chamber for accuracy....</p><p></p><p>Is one more inherantly accurate than the other? Both are equally capable. Prove otherwise.</p><p></p><p>I've got a '79 Ford F150 4x4, has a 4 bolt Chevy 454 and a Turbo 400 in it though... <img src="http://images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> </p><p></p><p>In my mind, pulling that Krieger and putting it on your Remington, best of both. <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brent, post: 10494, member: 99"] Len, I re-read your post, must have been a little unclear to me late that night, as it made perfect sense when I re-read it just now. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Do you think that the spring back in the brass would still be nearly the same after firing if the brass had slight variations in thickness, which could be accounting for some of the case weight variations? Food for thought though - If the outside dimentions of the cases were all the same at the time of measuring with water, diameter at neck, shoulder, base, headspace, and the OAL, I just figure (assume) the water weight means the internal "space" has to be the same... or it wouldn't hold that volume/weight of water. KardiacKid, I disagree with most of your post, so I figured I'd just highlight the opposite stuff. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [B] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> The Weatherby uses a Kreiger button rifled barrel which is a good barrel. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>[/B] Okay, I like that part, but they screwed it up by putting it on a WBY action. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Probably why they only guarantee 1.5" groups out of them. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] My sons little fetherweight 308 does that with any factory ammo, so does darn near anything else I've ever shot. [B] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> The bottom line is that Wby has a guarantee on accuracy which tells you what you need to know. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>[/B] I guess a guy can read that two ways.... AJ cleared up the rest quite well. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [B] <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> I have read and re-read the headspace issue starting with this site. If the gun shoots well - who cares ? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>[/B] Minimal headspace serves two ends; one is to offer resistance upon primer strike and keep the case from excessively stretching, the other is to better center the case neck in the chamber for accuracy.... Is one more inherantly accurate than the other? Both are equally capable. Prove otherwise. I've got a '79 Ford F150 4x4, has a 4 bolt Chevy 454 and a Turbo 400 in it though... [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] In my mind, pulling that Krieger and putting it on your Remington, best of both. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]
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