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<blockquote data-quote="littletoes" data-source="post: 10493" data-attributes="member: 579"><p>OK guys, I have taken the time to read each and every post. I would have to say that we have some good experience here to make up some of the answers that we are getting. The deal is, the guys that have the most experience with how guns work, are the long range target shooters/reloaders. They/we usualy play with our loads more, and shoot more, because we can. If you tweak a load enough, you can make it work. But whats the cheapest/best way to do it? Its plain and simple that boat tails don't shoot as accuratly in rifles that have quite a bit of free-bore, or factory throat erosion as I call it. Well at least in my experience. I have several Remington 700's and a beutiful Weatherby Accumark in 300 Weatherby Mag. I also think that the additional cost of the Weatherby, just for the name, and a few slightly custom features may just be slightly overrated. Hate to say it, but its the truth. The Remingtons that I have seen and used are very good weapons. For half the price you can sure get some good work done on your Remington. I will not part with my Weatherby, because it was a gift from my Wife. But if I had known what I was doing at the time, then I just might have gone with the Remington. </p><p></p><p>KardiacKid-A Weatherby DOES NOT need the "free-bore" that it has. Free-bore is something that the manufactures use to get more velocity(and still keep the lawyers happy), NOT ACCURACY! The truth, plain and simple, sorry, but that is just the way it is. If you don't believe me, ask any true expert. Hell, take a poll of the benchrest shooters out there(the TRUE accuracy experts!!). Ask them about free-bore. You might be sorry, or you just might learn something. The trick is to not close any ideas out. If you want more accuracy from a cartrige, you make the barrel heavier/thicker. If you want more velocity, you make the barrel longer. Ever hear of a 32" barrel? How about longer? They're out there, and they get the full use of the powder that those large casses hold. Why burn powder out the end of your barrel? Keep the gasses inside where they can continue to push that bullet! And a garuntee of 1 1/2" at 100 yards isn't anything. Why does Weatherby do it? SIMPLE! EASY! It sells rifles. But those that know, or are in the "know", understand that most rifles do better. Especialy with handloads. I have a couple of Remingtons that shoot under 1/4 MOA with factory ammo. I've also shot under 1 1/2" at 330 yards with five shots out of my Weatherby (Serious load tweeking!). There is just so much info out there, and the great thing is that most shooters are more than willing to teach, to pass on there sport. Thats how we keep it alive. Take a kid shooting! littletoes out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="littletoes, post: 10493, member: 579"] OK guys, I have taken the time to read each and every post. I would have to say that we have some good experience here to make up some of the answers that we are getting. The deal is, the guys that have the most experience with how guns work, are the long range target shooters/reloaders. They/we usualy play with our loads more, and shoot more, because we can. If you tweak a load enough, you can make it work. But whats the cheapest/best way to do it? Its plain and simple that boat tails don't shoot as accuratly in rifles that have quite a bit of free-bore, or factory throat erosion as I call it. Well at least in my experience. I have several Remington 700's and a beutiful Weatherby Accumark in 300 Weatherby Mag. I also think that the additional cost of the Weatherby, just for the name, and a few slightly custom features may just be slightly overrated. Hate to say it, but its the truth. The Remingtons that I have seen and used are very good weapons. For half the price you can sure get some good work done on your Remington. I will not part with my Weatherby, because it was a gift from my Wife. But if I had known what I was doing at the time, then I just might have gone with the Remington. KardiacKid-A Weatherby DOES NOT need the "free-bore" that it has. Free-bore is something that the manufactures use to get more velocity(and still keep the lawyers happy), NOT ACCURACY! The truth, plain and simple, sorry, but that is just the way it is. If you don't believe me, ask any true expert. Hell, take a poll of the benchrest shooters out there(the TRUE accuracy experts!!). Ask them about free-bore. You might be sorry, or you just might learn something. The trick is to not close any ideas out. If you want more accuracy from a cartrige, you make the barrel heavier/thicker. If you want more velocity, you make the barrel longer. Ever hear of a 32" barrel? How about longer? They're out there, and they get the full use of the powder that those large casses hold. Why burn powder out the end of your barrel? Keep the gasses inside where they can continue to push that bullet! And a garuntee of 1 1/2" at 100 yards isn't anything. Why does Weatherby do it? SIMPLE! EASY! It sells rifles. But those that know, or are in the "know", understand that most rifles do better. Especialy with handloads. I have a couple of Remingtons that shoot under 1/4 MOA with factory ammo. I've also shot under 1 1/2" at 330 yards with five shots out of my Weatherby (Serious load tweeking!). There is just so much info out there, and the great thing is that most shooters are more than willing to teach, to pass on there sport. Thats how we keep it alive. Take a kid shooting! littletoes out. [/QUOTE]
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