300 RUM w/ 210 VLD's or 208 A-Max

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  1. ScottCoulter36

    ScottCoulter36 Member

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    I am new to reloading and I was set on using 210 VLD's. But just recently I've seen alot of positive feedback about the 208 A-Max since it supposedly has a slightly higher BC. Do you guys have any personal experience with one or both, and what kind of velocity and accuracy were you getting from short to long ranges?

    Thank you for you help in advance!
     
  2. fseybert

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    I just recently started shooting a Remington Sendero .300 RUM. Thank You Santa! I found a fire forming load with the 210 Bergers that shot a 7/8" 300 yard group. Needless to say, I am very pleased. Broke rocks with ease out to 740 the other day. I haven't, and really don't intend to even try the A-Max. I do however have a few 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds on the way. I am seeing 3050 fps with the Bergers.
     

  3. eyeballjr

    eyeballjr Well-Known Member

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    I have some 210's coming in on friday. Hope to get some good weather this next week as i have 7 days off of work. I will be sure to let you know what i have found. I have not heard any bad stuff about the 208's though.
     
  4. ScottCoulter36

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    fseybert,
    That's some really good shooting. Thank you for your input. The velocity you're getting is great, too, 100 fps more than Berger said you'd get with that bullet. How do you have your load set up, if you don't mind me asking?

    eyeballjr,
    Good luck when you go shooting. Definitely let me know what you find out with the vld's.
     
  5. Camshaft

    Camshaft Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't matter if you wanted to run amaxs anyways, they are impossible to find. I use the vlds running 3160 with great accuracy with retumbo.
     
  6. ScottCoulter36

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    That's a sharp looking rifle you have there. Are you shooting 210's? How do you have your load set up if you don't mind me asking? Thanks
     
  7. Camshaft

    Camshaft Well-Known Member

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    Yes, i am using 210vld's running .015" off of the lands, I use Remington Brass with a Rem 9-1/2M Primer over 94gr of Retumbo. My best group to date with this load was a 4-1/4" 3 shot group at 1025yards. This load is very near to the max for my rifle so i don't recommend duplicating it without backing out off about 5% and working back up.
     
  8. luke

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    I have a remington m700 300RUM that I use the 210vld's in. I use 94gr of retumbo powder with winchester mag primers and Nosler custom brass. I had to set the C.O.A.L at saami to get the best loads. I started .010 off the lands and kept working down to see what the groups would do. When I hit saami length the group was just under a half inch at 200 yards. Good enough for me. This load chronoed at 3100.
     
  9. ScottCoulter36

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    luke, I hope this doesn't make me look totally ignorant. But being new to reloading and LR shooting, I don't know much of the 'lingo'. What does saami mean?
     
  10. luke

    luke Well-Known Member

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    S.A.A.M.I stands for sporting arms and ammunition manufacturers institute. It is basicly just a guide for cartridge length. It is a guide not the rule. All the reloading books that I have state the saami for any given cartridge. For example the 223 saami is 2.260. That does not mean you cant load it to 2.275 but every gun is different and may not chamber the longer rounds. By the way no question is an ignorant question. If you dont ask you cant learn.
     
  11. Camshaft

    Camshaft Well-Known Member

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    They also handle standards for things like chamber and case dimensions, chamber pressures. And standardization of wildcat cartridges.
     
  12. ScottCoulter36

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    Thank you guys so much for your help. Just over these last two weeks I've learned a ridiculous amount of stuff with all the research I've been doing. I've been researching alot of LR scopes at the same time but that's a whole new world.

    I'm definitely sold on the 210 vld's. Just seeing the velocity you guys are getting, along with the BC. I'm very excited to start loading these and see what I come up with, hopefully I don't blow myself up, haha.
     
  13. luke

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    Just start with a light powder charge and work up carefully. According to the data from berger the max load is 92gr of retumbo. I worked my load carefully and watched closely for pressure signs. I know the load is safe for my gun. My uncle has the same rifle as mine and he cant use the max load in his gun because of pressure.
     
  14. dnj21

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    I have run the 200gr Accubonds over 92.5gr of Retumbo, set about .015 off the lands in my 700 SS. What a difference OAL adjustments made in this particualr gun, it likes them set out a ways! Haven't shot anything with it yet, so no actual game reports for it.

    Will the 210 gr VLD perform adequately for Elk/Mule deer sized game? I started working with the Accubond based off what I read here, but always willing to try something new. Especially this time of the year when I don't have anything to chase around. (but coyotes, and that is a different web site)

    Thank you,
    Dave