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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 376543" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>It's the same ole debate... shoulder shot vs double lung, and... highly frangible bullets vs controlled expansion frangible vs monometals.</p><p> </p><p>The only thing I ever shot with a 210 Berger was a coyote through the head @ 120 yds. He didn't need to be tracked <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>There just aren't any 100% guarantees. I read all the reports here and other forums on bullet performance that I can. The trend is that most people are satisfied with the hunting bullets they are using... I suppose that's why they are using them. Another trend is that every bullet has some dis-satisfied users for various reasons. I try to take it all in and make as good an objective judgement as I can. </p><p> </p><p>Accuracy is my first priority followed by terminal performance and BC ranks high. Most bullets get good scores in those areas with some being a little stronger in one area than another. For terminal performance, I would like a bullet that holds together well for worst case scenarios and monometals are the best for that IMO. I have read a lot of good reports and a few not so good reports on the Bergers. Chances are probably 90% or better that a 210 Berger will easily penetrate the shoulders. although I like monometals better, I think your best chances of a DRT are with a Berger like bullet put through both lungs which will likely result in the instantaneous destruction of the lungs. Shoulder shots tend to anchor a game animal very well, but not always and sometimes result in minimal lung damage. That, and the loss of meat is why I look for a double lung if I can get it.</p><p> </p><p>This last fall I shot a buck antelope @ 280 yds with a 115 Ballistic Silvertip (same as a Ballistic Tip) out of a 25-06. The entrance hole under the hide was about 1" and the exit hole was about 1 1/2" - 2", right behind the shoulder through both lungs. It took off like it wasn't even hit, ran in about a 30 yd circle for about 100 yds and piled up. That's the first time I ever had animal hit that well and go that far. A shoulder shot may have dropped it, but I've read a few stories of shoulder shot critters getting up and trotting off. There just aren't any guarantees. Pick a bullet and take your best shot.</p><p> </p><p>-Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 376543, member: 11717"] It's the same ole debate... shoulder shot vs double lung, and... highly frangible bullets vs controlled expansion frangible vs monometals. The only thing I ever shot with a 210 Berger was a coyote through the head @ 120 yds. He didn't need to be tracked :) There just aren't any 100% guarantees. I read all the reports here and other forums on bullet performance that I can. The trend is that most people are satisfied with the hunting bullets they are using... I suppose that's why they are using them. Another trend is that every bullet has some dis-satisfied users for various reasons. I try to take it all in and make as good an objective judgement as I can. Accuracy is my first priority followed by terminal performance and BC ranks high. Most bullets get good scores in those areas with some being a little stronger in one area than another. For terminal performance, I would like a bullet that holds together well for worst case scenarios and monometals are the best for that IMO. I have read a lot of good reports and a few not so good reports on the Bergers. Chances are probably 90% or better that a 210 Berger will easily penetrate the shoulders. although I like monometals better, I think your best chances of a DRT are with a Berger like bullet put through both lungs which will likely result in the instantaneous destruction of the lungs. Shoulder shots tend to anchor a game animal very well, but not always and sometimes result in minimal lung damage. That, and the loss of meat is why I look for a double lung if I can get it. This last fall I shot a buck antelope @ 280 yds with a 115 Ballistic Silvertip (same as a Ballistic Tip) out of a 25-06. The entrance hole under the hide was about 1" and the exit hole was about 1 1/2" - 2", right behind the shoulder through both lungs. It took off like it wasn't even hit, ran in about a 30 yd circle for about 100 yds and piled up. That's the first time I ever had animal hit that well and go that far. A shoulder shot may have dropped it, but I've read a few stories of shoulder shot critters getting up and trotting off. There just aren't any guarantees. Pick a bullet and take your best shot. -Mark [/QUOTE]
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