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300 Holland & Holland ...anybody played with this one ?
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<blockquote data-quote="Bart B" data-source="post: 635121" data-attributes="member: 5302"><p>Not quite so. Where did you get that information?</p><p></p><p>30 caliber rifles replaced the 40+ caliber international long range competition cartridges for the USA around 1900. The US Palma Team used the .30-40 Krag in 1901 and 1903. They used an experimental 30 caliber rifle in 1902 and a couple years later switched to the .30-03 and then the .30-06. Meanwhile the British Commonwealth countries had switched over to the .303 British round.</p><p></p><p>In the USA as I remember reading about the history of cartridges, the only cartridge allowed in high power rifle matches from about 1906 to 1935 was the .30-06. </p><p></p><p>The .300 H&H Mag. was introduced in 1925 as the Super 30, but was soon renamed. The H&H belted case was first used in 1912 for the .375 Belted Rimless Nitro-Express. Its belt was designed so both double rifles and bolt action magazine rifles could use the same ammo. Rimmed cases used in double rifles were not reliable in feeding from box magazines. The H&H belt prevented the top cartridge in the magazine getting its headspacing part (the rim) behind the same case part on the round below it. Those cartridges had shallow sloping shoulders so a standard rimless case could not be used; the case would be driven too far into the chamber by firing pin impact and head separation was a problem. That belt had nor does not now have anything to do with such cases being "stronger" for magnum loads.</p><p></p><p>.300 H&H's were never used in competition until 1935 when 30 caliber magnums were allowed for 1000 yard matches. Ben Comfort used a Griffin & Howe custom rifle on an Enfield 1917 action chambered for the .300 H&H to win the 1000-yard Wimbledon Cup Match at the USA Nationals in 1935. Here's a link to the details.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2009/09/history-ben-comfort-1935-wimbledon-cup.html" target="_blank">The Rifleman's Journal: History: Ben Comfort 1935 Wimbledon Cup</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bart B, post: 635121, member: 5302"] Not quite so. Where did you get that information? 30 caliber rifles replaced the 40+ caliber international long range competition cartridges for the USA around 1900. The US Palma Team used the .30-40 Krag in 1901 and 1903. They used an experimental 30 caliber rifle in 1902 and a couple years later switched to the .30-03 and then the .30-06. Meanwhile the British Commonwealth countries had switched over to the .303 British round. In the USA as I remember reading about the history of cartridges, the only cartridge allowed in high power rifle matches from about 1906 to 1935 was the .30-06. The .300 H&H Mag. was introduced in 1925 as the Super 30, but was soon renamed. The H&H belted case was first used in 1912 for the .375 Belted Rimless Nitro-Express. Its belt was designed so both double rifles and bolt action magazine rifles could use the same ammo. Rimmed cases used in double rifles were not reliable in feeding from box magazines. The H&H belt prevented the top cartridge in the magazine getting its headspacing part (the rim) behind the same case part on the round below it. Those cartridges had shallow sloping shoulders so a standard rimless case could not be used; the case would be driven too far into the chamber by firing pin impact and head separation was a problem. That belt had nor does not now have anything to do with such cases being "stronger" for magnum loads. .300 H&H's were never used in competition until 1935 when 30 caliber magnums were allowed for 1000 yard matches. Ben Comfort used a Griffin & Howe custom rifle on an Enfield 1917 action chambered for the .300 H&H to win the 1000-yard Wimbledon Cup Match at the USA Nationals in 1935. Here's a link to the details. [url=http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2009/09/history-ben-comfort-1935-wimbledon-cup.html]The Rifleman's Journal: History: Ben Comfort 1935 Wimbledon Cup[/url] [/QUOTE]
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