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.300 Allen Xpress ....looking for all the info i can get
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<blockquote data-quote="royinidaho" data-source="post: 166593" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />Yeah, I have one of those little pecker wood 270 AMs.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>Here's what I've figured out. Note that I've had to come a long way from shooting the same 270 Win for over 30 years. The Allen Mag has caused me to learn a bunch in a very short time period.</p><p></p><p>What I appreciate my 270 AM as is a shooting system designed to operate within a specific high intensity design window. That is, APS Cartridge design, Wildcat 169gr RBBT bullet, Lilja 3 groove barrel (APS specs), a very slow burning ball powder and even the characteristics of Rem Brass may be factored in, all go together to form an extreme shooting system that will operate precisely as designed.</p><p></p><p>I had ordered a 224 AM for LR yotes. That design hadn't yet achieved full design and I switched the order to the 270 AM for the same target animal. I believe the 270 AM was designed for the largest mule deer and any thing smaller.</p><p></p><p>Then I get the thing and begin thinking elk<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> That causes me to think bigger bullets. That caused me some problems. I got outside of the design window and got unexpected results which should have been expected from the get go but I'm a little slow (30 years same cartridge, powder, primer and bullet rut). But, hey, it was worth it.</p><p></p><p>What does this have to do with the 30 AX? I'm thinking that Kirby has learned some stuff along the way with all of this design work. I'm betting that one of stuff is the worth of Lapua brass in these extreme cartridge designs.</p><p></p><p>If I had a 30 AX I'd be saying the same thing. But, I have a pic in my mind of a 338 AX, and then a and then a and ............<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>Any of the Allen designs, once released, will do what they are designed to do when kept within the bounds of the design criteria, thumbs down! Or should that be thumbs up?!!!</p><p></p><p>Edit: From the time I started this reply to the time I actually posted, the complexion of the thread has changed a bit.</p><p></p><p>This post is not intended to be anything like a negative response or flame, if you will. Just my learning experience.</p><p></p><p>Hell, if I could build my own I wouldn't own anything that anyone else made.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="royinidaho, post: 166593, member: 2011"] :D:DYeah, I have one of those little pecker wood 270 AMs.;) Here's what I've figured out. Note that I've had to come a long way from shooting the same 270 Win for over 30 years. The Allen Mag has caused me to learn a bunch in a very short time period. What I appreciate my 270 AM as is a shooting system designed to operate within a specific high intensity design window. That is, APS Cartridge design, Wildcat 169gr RBBT bullet, Lilja 3 groove barrel (APS specs), a very slow burning ball powder and even the characteristics of Rem Brass may be factored in, all go together to form an extreme shooting system that will operate precisely as designed. I had ordered a 224 AM for LR yotes. That design hadn't yet achieved full design and I switched the order to the 270 AM for the same target animal. I believe the 270 AM was designed for the largest mule deer and any thing smaller. Then I get the thing and begin thinking elk:rolleyes: That causes me to think bigger bullets. That caused me some problems. I got outside of the design window and got unexpected results which should have been expected from the get go but I'm a little slow (30 years same cartridge, powder, primer and bullet rut). But, hey, it was worth it. What does this have to do with the 30 AX? I'm thinking that Kirby has learned some stuff along the way with all of this design work. I'm betting that one of stuff is the worth of Lapua brass in these extreme cartridge designs. If I had a 30 AX I'd be saying the same thing. But, I have a pic in my mind of a 338 AX, and then a and then a and ............:rolleyes: Any of the Allen designs, once released, will do what they are designed to do when kept within the bounds of the design criteria, thumbs down! Or should that be thumbs up?!!! Edit: From the time I started this reply to the time I actually posted, the complexion of the thread has changed a bit. This post is not intended to be anything like a negative response or flame, if you will. Just my learning experience. Hell, if I could build my own I wouldn't own anything that anyone else made. [/QUOTE]
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