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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stonehands1" data-source="post: 2530046" data-attributes="member: 88929">I'm running a Norma Imp in a 28 inch 9.5twist and able to get 3200 out of the 230 hybrid @ sea level. Well its a warm load it shoots .5 all day. I prefer the 225eldm at 3170ish as it has been a flawless performer on game out to 1400yds.It mag feeds perfect in all 3 of my rifles with plenty of room to spare.N570 is my go to for this cartridge.I had a Warbird that would shoot similar speeds but burned more powder to do it and had to single feed it. I looked at the 30-338L as well but didnt figure it would mag feed the heavies. But I do think with a 30+ tube the bigger case could give you more speed because you can run slower powders in the longer tube but for sure would need to single feed or the advantage would be negated.</blockquote>