30-06 wont chamber

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  1. jpbaker

    jpbaker Well-Known Member

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    Went out to check zero on my rifle this afternoon befor I went to my bear stand.

    I put a shell in the action, and threw the bolt ahead, but it wouldn't chamber the round????? not sure why, the bolt is about 1/8th of an inch from being all the way forward.

    Not sure what the issue is. I used the rifle alot last year with no issues.

    It is factory ammo, and I tried a couple different brands, both with same result.


    So the question,

    WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON??????? Head spacing screwed? How do I fix it?
     
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  2. cahunter805

    cahunter805 Well-Known Member

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    What brand of rifle is it? Have you taken the action out of the stock recently? I have seen more than a few times someone really torquing down the screws on a Rem700 and having threads poke thru the action holes. This will stop the bolt from closing all the way. Also did you by chance put new bases on the rifle? Some actions use different length screws to keep them from being to deep when tightened.
     

  3. jpbaker

    jpbaker Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, the stock has been off a bit lately (opened forend, and bedded it.) Its a Savage edge

    However, torqueing the screws is not the problem, because it still does it when the stock is off, and also, if I take the bolt out and drop a shell in, apply some pressure with my fingers, it wont go in all the way aout 1/8th of an inch out.

    So im thinking is dont have anything to do with the bolt....
     
  4. sinarms

    sinarms Well-Known Member

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    did you take the scope base off? on the 110 series you can get the screws mixed up from front to rear and you cant shut your bolt.
     
  5. paphil

    paphil Well-Known Member

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    Could there be a cleaning patch stuck in the chamber??
     
  6. Fitch

    Fitch Well-Known Member

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    Bedding compound in the chamber?

    Fitch
     
  7. Aldon

    Aldon Well-Known Member

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    +1 on Scope BAse screws.
     
  8. Fitch

    Fitch Well-Known Member

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    I think that's a good hypothesis. The way to check that is to see if it will close on an empty chamber. If it does, it isn't scope screws, though I've had them do this to me, the front action screw can do it too.

    I ruled out the action screw since he said he tried it with the receiver out of the stock which would mean no action screw installed.

    Fitch
     
  9. jpbaker

    jpbaker Well-Known Member

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    It closes fine on an empty chamber, and the chamber appears to be clean as a whisle.....and, nope no cleaning patch :D.
     
  10. Fitch

    Fitch Well-Known Member

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    OK. Will it close on a Go-Gage?

    Fitch
     
  11. jpbaker

    jpbaker Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what a Go Gage is. But, is it possible that some bedding compound did get into the chamber. It appears to be clean. However with the edge/axis the recoil lug is bedded into the stock, and the barrel nut is notched for the recoil lug, and the barrel threads are visible. So im wondering if compound found its way into the chamber somehow....

    Like I said it appears clean, but....now im starting to wonder.....

    TKS
    JPB
     
  12. Fitch

    Fitch Well-Known Member

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    Barrel nuts are seldom notched for recoil lugs. Something is either not right or you aren't understanding what you are looking at. Is this a Savage? If so, you may have a simple resolution but you will need a go-gage.

    A Go-Gage is the gage used by a gunsmith to determine if the chamber is the proper depth. If the chamber is too shallow, headspacing too short, you would have the symptoms you are experiencing.

    Headspace gages come in two flavors for the .30-06. The Go Gage which should fit in the chamber with the bolt closed, a No-Go gage which is a few thousandts longer and shouldn't fit in the chamber with the bolt closed.

    The Go-Gage is a precision ground solid steel gage that is inserted in the chamber like a cartridge. They are not expensive. This one should tell you if the chamber is undersize or not, and it's in stock: PTG Headspace Go Gage 30-06 Springfield, 25-06 Remington, 270 Winchester, 8mm-06 Springfield, 338-06 A-Square, 35 Whelen - MidwayUSA

    When the obvious mechanical possibilities are exhausted, an undersized chamber has to be ruled out, especially when the problem happens with factory ammo. The Go-Gage is the tool that will give you that answer.

    Fitch
     
  13. jpbaker

    jpbaker Well-Known Member

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    Well im pretty sure what im looking at, and I understand that this recoil lug system is specific to the Savage edge/axis.

    And Im sorry, its the receiver that is notched not the barrel nut.

    There are some pics of what im talking about in this review:
    Savage Edge Rifle Review | Big Game Hunt

    I got a go gage ordered as well, sounds like it might be needed :D.


    TKS
    JPB
     
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  14. Stonewall2

    Stonewall2 Well-Known Member

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    Find a brass brush slighty bigger than that chamber to clean it .

    Glenn