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<blockquote data-quote="Hand Skills" data-source="post: 1712653" data-attributes="member: 103303"><p>Fair enough <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> I don't think a 20" .280AI will do anything your 7-08 can't. In fact it promises to yield near identical performance in a package that is 2" shorter. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you misread me, sir. My thinking is that a 7-08 is a short action. That means it will start out shorter and lighter by its very nature. Couple this with a short barrel and the result is a light and handy package. Do you follow the logic? A 7-08 makes a better carbine than a 280. </p><p></p><p>The 280AI has ~17% more case capacity than the 7-08. As a cartridge, it is better suited to long range by its very nature. Playing to its strengths, a longer barrel can 'leverage' that potential into real gains downrange.</p><p></p><p>You seem to be implying that no 'leverage' is available. That the performance difference (or ratio) between a 7-08AI and a 280AI is static and linear.</p><p></p><p>In my experience, this fps 'advantage' possessed by the larger case scales with bullet weight - the heavier the bullet, the larger the difference will be. Lighter bullet, smaller difference. There is some leverage available, depending on how one looks at the equation.</p><p></p><p>The OP asked a very general question about thoughts on barrel length. 'Better' is a subjective thing - my opinion is no better than yours, but your ego seems hungry today... I know you have some good data on the subject, and I'm always keen to learn. </p><p></p><p>(For the sake of discussion, let's keep it S.A.A.M.I - the lines can become blurred when using Palma brass in a match chamber with .200+ freebore, and the OP was referencing a Savage Axis afterall <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hand Skills, post: 1712653, member: 103303"] Fair enough ;) I don't think a 20" .280AI will do anything your 7-08 can't. In fact it promises to yield near identical performance in a package that is 2" shorter. I think you misread me, sir. My thinking is that a 7-08 is a short action. That means it will start out shorter and lighter by its very nature. Couple this with a short barrel and the result is a light and handy package. Do you follow the logic? A 7-08 makes a better carbine than a 280. The 280AI has ~17% more case capacity than the 7-08. As a cartridge, it is better suited to long range by its very nature. Playing to its strengths, a longer barrel can 'leverage' that potential into real gains downrange. You seem to be implying that no 'leverage' is available. That the performance difference (or ratio) between a 7-08AI and a 280AI is static and linear. In my experience, this fps 'advantage' possessed by the larger case scales with bullet weight - the heavier the bullet, the larger the difference will be. Lighter bullet, smaller difference. There is some leverage available, depending on how one looks at the equation. The OP asked a very general question about thoughts on barrel length. 'Better' is a subjective thing - my opinion is no better than yours, but your ego seems hungry today... I know you have some good data on the subject, and I'm always keen to learn. (For the sake of discussion, let's keep it S.A.A.M.I - the lines can become blurred when using Palma brass in a match chamber with .200+ freebore, and the OP was referencing a Savage Axis afterall :D) [/QUOTE]
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