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280 SHERMAN/162 A-MAX vs BEAR
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<blockquote data-quote="Scot E" data-source="post: 656547" data-attributes="member: 10832"><p>Most of my shots are 1/2 mile or closer so I don't shoot as long as you do. With my 30-06 I have had hits from 250 yards to 750 yards and have no issues with any over expansion at the closer ranges. That isn't saying a whole lot though considering the power level of that gun. I shoot the 168's at a muzzle velocity of 2900 fps. </p><p></p><p>I know of at least a handful of guys that shoot the 168's in their 300 Win Mag's and love them. I would guess at that power level you would have to be a bit more careful with real close shots, maybe under 200-300 yards or so, but then again I have seen them perform fine with that kind of power at those ranges. It is just that you hear about more issues there and so I would personally be a bit careful. To be honest there is no magic to them with the close range stuff but it is the LR stuff where they shine. They are about as accurate of a bullet as you can get, and they expand reliably and down to very low velocities which is perfect for my style of hunting where I often times need a mid weight packable rifle where I don't carry the real heavy magnums with the extra weight for the real LR stuff. </p><p></p><p>I only have experience with the 260 Rem/ 6.5 Swede power level of guns in 264. But I have had excellent results with that bullet at any range from point blank to over 900 yards. All on deer or smaller animals. The 6.5 has a bigger issue than some other calibers in getting a bullet to expand properly, at least in my experience. That is in part due to its high SD and diameter to length ratio. In my experience they are just a tougher bullet when compared to the same bullet in other calibers. So the more frangible bullets are a perfect match for the 6.5 IMO. I am not a premium controlled expansion fan anyway but especially not so in the 6.5. </p><p></p><p>I still have my eye on a 6.5 Sherman which would be a perfect fit for some longer range tests with the A-max. Someday soon hopefully.</p><p></p><p>Scot E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scot E, post: 656547, member: 10832"] Most of my shots are 1/2 mile or closer so I don't shoot as long as you do. With my 30-06 I have had hits from 250 yards to 750 yards and have no issues with any over expansion at the closer ranges. That isn't saying a whole lot though considering the power level of that gun. I shoot the 168's at a muzzle velocity of 2900 fps. I know of at least a handful of guys that shoot the 168's in their 300 Win Mag's and love them. I would guess at that power level you would have to be a bit more careful with real close shots, maybe under 200-300 yards or so, but then again I have seen them perform fine with that kind of power at those ranges. It is just that you hear about more issues there and so I would personally be a bit careful. To be honest there is no magic to them with the close range stuff but it is the LR stuff where they shine. They are about as accurate of a bullet as you can get, and they expand reliably and down to very low velocities which is perfect for my style of hunting where I often times need a mid weight packable rifle where I don't carry the real heavy magnums with the extra weight for the real LR stuff. I only have experience with the 260 Rem/ 6.5 Swede power level of guns in 264. But I have had excellent results with that bullet at any range from point blank to over 900 yards. All on deer or smaller animals. The 6.5 has a bigger issue than some other calibers in getting a bullet to expand properly, at least in my experience. That is in part due to its high SD and diameter to length ratio. In my experience they are just a tougher bullet when compared to the same bullet in other calibers. So the more frangible bullets are a perfect match for the 6.5 IMO. I am not a premium controlled expansion fan anyway but especially not so in the 6.5. I still have my eye on a 6.5 Sherman which would be a perfect fit for some longer range tests with the A-max. Someday soon hopefully. Scot E. [/QUOTE]
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