280 in a 16 inch barrel

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  1. rtv900

    rtv900 Well-Known Member

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    I am wondering what I would have to do to get a 280 or 280AI to shoot out of a 16 inch barrel? I am so used to a 24 or 26 inch barrel and hearing about powder burn time and things like that. I am not always sure what it all means but I am learning.

    Since I just ordered a rifle in 26 inch to get extra burn time for a 280AI how or what would I load to make it go a long range out of a barrel 10 inches shorter?
     
  2. rtv900

    rtv900 Well-Known Member

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    Any thoughts? Anyone?
     

  3. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    RTV

    The 280 doesent lend it,s self to a short barrel because of
    the powder it uses.

    The 7mm/08 or the 7mm/WSM / 7mm saum would be better
    choices for a short barrel.

    The 7mm/08 will exceed the 280 in a short barrel but the reverse
    is true in a longer barrel.

    The 7mm/WSM or the 7mm/SAUM should match the 26" 280 with
    a 14" to 16" barrel.

    The 260 rem would be anoyher good choice .

    A of these rounds listed do very well with short barrels.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  4. James Jones

    James Jones Well-Known Member

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    I think that the only thing your gonna gain for a 16" barreled 280 is a head ache from the concussion , its gonna be !! LOUD !!

    Burn rates are differant with differant case shapes and capacities as well as the bullet you want to shoot. , if you want to shoot a 180gr bullet out of a 280 then your gonna want a slow burning powder to give you a longer pressure curve and more barrel to allow for the powder to burn fully , if you try ti use a fast powder like one would use with shooting say a 120gr bullet your gonna reach higher pressure problems well before the round has reached its accuracy potentioal. The shorter fatter cases are a bit more effecient so they will get better velocities out of shorter barrels. If your set on the 280 then I'd suggest at least a 24" barrel to get the good out of it.
     
  5. zuba

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    I'm planning a 17" savage striker in 7 saum. 1-8"twist. I plan on shooting 162-180 grain bullets. From what I've found the short far cases are the way to go with the shorter barrels.
     
  6. Ernie

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    Use the same powder as you would for a rifle barrel, or maybe the next step faster.
     
  7. rtv900

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    The reason I ask is I am trying to setup a rig for the long range handgun shoot in WY in June. I just want to make sure I make the right choice. I ordered a barrel and then told them to put it on hold until I made up my mind. I am trying to make up my mind between a 6.5 284 and a 280 or 280AI. I have limited experience hand loading so I just want to make the best decision and go with it. That way I have a solid platform to build from.
     
  8. hshunter

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    A friend of XPhunter and mine has a xp in a 280 JDJ (SSK custom barell) and it is a great long range shooter, Doug has taken several antelope with it in WY, I had the priviledge to shoot it a couple of years ago and with the brake it was a piece of cake to shoot. I believe any of the calibers you are looking at would suffice for the long range shoot at Sundance, besides all three calibers would use the same bolt face.
    nmhunter
     
  9. Ernie

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    Jon,
    I have never chambered the 280 or the AI version in a SP, but I have had SP's in 284 Win, 7mmRem Mag Imp, and the 7mm Dakota (as well as 260 Rem, 6-284 & 6.5-284) and they have all shot great.

    If you are going to have an 18" for unlimited and a 15 for production then I would go with the 6.5-284 for 15" and the 280 AI for unlimited.
    FWIW--I will be shooting a 6.5-284 for production myself and I will be shooting a big 7mm for unlimited.
     
  10. diderr

    diderr Well-Known Member

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    I have a 300wsm in a 16" barrel on a ruger frontier. It is really accurate, but it fouls up in like 5 shots w/ unburned pow.
    diderr,
     
  11. Ernie

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    I am assuming the frontier is a rifle?
    my old XP 7.82 Patriot (more capacity than the 300WSM) barrel was in the 16" range and don't remember fouling issues. I used H-4350 with 150 and 180's.
    Mine was a Shilen select match SS, I wonder if your fouling issue was the powder you used or possibly the condition of your barrel? Maybe both?
     
  12. gravedigger

    gravedigger Well-Known Member

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    I have an 18 inch Encore in 280 AI, it is a very accurate barrel. I am sbooting 55.0grs of RE-19 with a 160 Sierra SPBT, with a Fed. 210M primer. I am using a Burris 3X-12X scope. I think it would be a very good caliber to have, mine is shooting a 1 inch group at 100 yards. It has a little recoil but I am getting a JP brake put on mine. Good Luck
     
  13. diderr

    diderr Well-Known Member

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    i was shooting factory's through it back then, my handloads w/ h4831sc burn a lot cleaner.
     
  14. rtv900

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    Well there are no shortage of options thats for sure. Any other thoughts?