Well I have finally got around to shooting the 195 grain bullets in my 277. After talking to Kirby and Richard, this will be the bullet of choice for my wifes cow moose hunt. So I packed up the rifle and chrono and went to my shooting spot yesterday. The wind was gusting a bit from my 6 and sometime from my 5. This first picture is of my overall groups. Overall groups This is of the 97 grain group. I pulled shot 3 and I marked it. 1,2 and 4 were right there. Velocity averaged about 3150. 97 grain load Last is the 98 grain group. I pulled shot 1 and marked it. Velocity averaged ~3200. 98 grain load Overall I was happy with 2 of the loads. Any thoughts, comments, suggestions? Should I play with seating depth, primers, or powder? I have not done much load developement so not sure what to do. Maybe load 98 grains again and move to 500 yards? Tonight I will finish the rest of my testing with 100 grains up to 103. There are no signs of pressure yet. Effortless bolt lift. So more tomorrow.