Hello, Finally got out yesterday to do some testing with Richard Graves 169.5grn (they say 168grn on the side, maybe eary version) RBBT in my 270WSM. I got the bullets from Richard almost a year ago. I was shooting them in my factory Win70 that's been bedded, trigger tuned, and the barrel floated. * All of the following are 3 shot groups using Retumbo * * Loaded .030" off the lands * charge vel group ES NOTES 64.0 2657 1.1 6 Two shots touching 64.5 2675 .863 8 65.0 2711 .670 1 Two shots touching 65.5 2742 1.445 16 Two shots close 66.0 2755 .723 ? 66.5 2768 .612 21 Two shots = one hole I was suprised how well they shot. I was hoping for 2800 fps, but my ES's were very low. I know I don't have enough data yet, but it seems like my ES's were growing as my charges increased. I liked the last group, but my last three charges didn't increase velocity very much. I have seven bullets left. What would you do next? Try for 2800 fps? Load up one of the accurate loads with different seating depths (like the 65.0 grn load)? Try H1000 for a few loads? I need to order some at some point, but I was just curious on opinions.