270 WSM W/huskamaw

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  1. jtbear011

    jtbear011 Member

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    Looking into the 6.5, 7mm, and 338 and it seems they are the way to go for BC....but whats BC? What nobody has been able to tell me is but few have tried to find the answer on the magical 270 WSM. If the 270 wasnt great then add a few horse power and BAM!! you got the most beautiful cailiber ever created!! Yes cause its a hybrid if thats the thing these days right? a .270 with more punch..!

    So taking a Tikka T3 Lite and fitting with Huskemaw shooting system 5-20, Federal 140gr Accubond, and we will see what happens.

    For you like me who have been waiting, you will have your answer soon. I like to kill Elk in Canada so we shall see



    November 12

    Took the Tikka in today!!!

    >Getting Powder Coated...Blacked out
    >Trigger down to 2 lb.
    >Muzzle break
    >and Huskemaw Optics Baby!! Phase 1: Federal 140gr Accubond, Phase 2: ? You tell me !

    Should have it back in week or so..

    Two weeks later.....
    No way getting it back!. kinda new I wasn't getting it back for awhile, but geeze! Bad time to pick load development from pro at the end of deer season and hope for clear days to do it. Cause they are far and few. Gun is finished just cant figure out how to post pictures.

    And...Thanks to the corresponders to the building the right bullet thread
    Cause I've gone with Berger 150-guaranteeing BC of .520 ....To test we go...
    Problems with seating of the bullets and feed problems from magazine has got me curious, even though single load is the "show boat" way to long range. "One shot" Having second shot ready is an option I still have.
    Has anyone ran into this problem using berger
     
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  2. LRSickle

    LRSickle Well-Known Member

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    I have the feeling somebody's been drinking.
     

  3. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    The 270WSM seems to be a magical caliber. BC is very important for guys that are really reaching out a long ways. It is the ability of the bullet to remain stable, retain energy and buck the wind at extended ranges with the least amount of deflection and drop. That is the simple explanation. The 270WSM has the capability of pushing bullets at a relatively high speed that negates BC to a point. I will say that you should maybe consider the 150 Berger for shooting to 1000, especially shooting at elk size game. However, past 1000yrds, one should really consider heavier calibers for larger game. Good luck with the rifle. Hope to see some targets and dead animals soon!

    Tank
     
  4. Derek M.

    Derek M. Well-Known Member

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    Here's some thoughts:

    270WSM with a 8.5 twist barrel shooting a wildcat 169.5 ULDRBBT
    270-300, same bbl, bullet
    270 Weatherby, same bbl/bullet

    I have a 270 AM, plenty of powder, and plenty of the wildcat bullets. I've just not had enough time to play with them.

    In terms of convenience, I think either a 7mm Rem Mag necked down to 270 or the 300 WM necked down to 270 with the bigger wildcat bullets is a good way to go with the right barrel.
     
  5. pyroducksx3

    pyroducksx3 Well-Known Member

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    Funny I recently aquired a modell 700 in 7 rem mag with a 26" barrel and already in an hs stock. I was thinking of either keeping it the way it is or going to a 7-300 win mag or 7 stw and using 200 wildcats or rebarreling to a 270-300 win mag or 270 stw using 169.5 wildcats ... decision decisions. Right now Im leaning to the sevens just because if anything in the 270 didnt like the wildcats it wouldnt be worth it but in the sevens if the wildcats became hard to get or didnt like then there's so many good choices
     
  6. fatrack

    fatrack Well-Known Member

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    Elk size game at 1000 yards with a 270WSM?

    I looked up a 150 grain Sierra boattail Gameking (BC of .481) at 3100+ FPS on JBM and it says a little over 900 ft/pounds at 800 yards and 600 ft/pounds at a 1000 yards. Seems a little anemic to me at these ranges.
     
  7. pitbull320

    pitbull320 Well-Known Member

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    I had kriby build a 270wsm for my wife and with the 169.5 wildcat and 3000fps it has 1281.4 ft-lbs at 1000yrds which is plenty to kill an elk at 1000yrds.she has already kill one elk with it in new Mexico at 740 and it dropped him in his tracks it all comes down to right bullet.
     
  8. BIG MO

    BIG MO Well-Known Member

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    LOL, HAVE A FEW BEERS MATE? ITS ALL GOOD!

    270WSM
    150 Berger
    3175 fps

    1700fps @ 1000yds with 1000ftlbs

    THIS IS THE LOAD I AM CURRENTLY RUNNING. I AGREE WITH TANK, TO 1000YDS YOUR GOOD, OVER THAT, ITS TIME TO GO BIGGER.
     
  9. jtbear011

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    WOW. The federal 140 accubond is 1539 ft/s and 736 ft/lb. @ 1000 The wild cat and Berger, I cant believe they can increase that so much..Crazy! Thats why this setup with Huskemaw a guy can play with original turret instead of customs and get new bullet figured and build new turret.

    The most funny part is all I hear is everyone saying the 270 WSM has no options, but for what it does have tromp 3/4 of 7 mm.

    This cartridge is fairly new..If you guys can play with it and get these numbers..holy shit.
    Do I have to start reloading to get these numbers??






    Originally I posted u
     
  10. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    You really have to step up and hand load to get the 270 WSM to shine. I shoot the 140 Accubonds at 3341 fps and it puts the stomp on everything I've put it on, I'm 1830fps at a 1000yrds and 1040 ft lbs of energy and it get's there flat and fast.
    Down side is barrel life is like 1200 rounds ish, mine is fried but still very accurate with the Accubond but the velocity is way down now.

    I'm re-barreling it this winter to a faster twist to shoot the 169.5gr Wildcats, it will put my 270 WSM in an other league, if I can run them in the 3000 fps range it will put me into the 1400yrd range for elk and deer if the accuracy is there I'll go farther, it will stay sonic till 2100yrds which is the same distance a 300gr Berger goes sub sonic out of a 338 Norma Mag.
     
  11. jtbear011

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    K. Ive done the research, got the rifle in and being built. And now from listening to you guys ( which I why I even bother) have come to the conclusion, if your going to get into long range there's no kits or out of the box 1000-yd shooting is there!

    I never truly believed there would be, but I was hoping to keep as many simple variables constant. Then you might be able to pull it off with out taking thing to new level.

    The answer: If you can and I have been wanting and talking and slowly trying to do this for over a year now, and now that its happening its becoming more clear if your going to do it, might as well do it right..." you've gone this far"

    Next step....RCBS reloading kit..Done, 270 WSM Dyes, now tell me with Tikka T3 Lite, 24" barrel 10 twist, looking to take elk at possibly 100 yds what is your load recommendations. A couple of you have suggested 1 Berger, 1 Accubond, and 1 wildcat..Gotcha! Got the reloader, now what? \

    Who has the secret recipe to teach me and help me prove and share that the 270 WSM is way overlooked for Long Range Hunting


    I have now jumped in with both feet!
     
  12. jtbear011

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    Out of the box Federal 140gr Accubond have better numbers then that
     
  13. bigngreen

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    Well it looks like your going to dive in!!! The 270 WSM hasn't been over looked it is just hard to get it into the 1000yrd range on game without running on the raged edge of pressure. I hunt in the 6000-10,000ft elevation range which helps.

    If you going to do it Rem brass handles the most pressure and getting some brass life but if you get a reamer set up right and head space it tight you can run with the better Norma brass, ideally you would have it in a long action so you can set it up long also. You'll be FL sizing every firing so just get a Redding bushing die up front and save the time. You'll need to anneal your brass, it is thick and gets hard fast when your romping on it and FL sizing every time and neck tension will vary to much for BR quality loads.

    Your Tikka should do good, I know the owner of Wildcat bullets was shooting the 169.5's just over 2900fps with a barrel just under 24 in with a 1-10 twist. For reloading I would work real hard on the 150 Berger and 140 Accubond till we see the Wildcat bullets, which will be soon I hope!! Slower powders have worked better in the 270 WSM's I've worked with, like H1000 and Retumbo but Magpro and R17 are Short mag powders, I was just never able to get them accurate.
    There are some solutions for the 270 in regards to high BC bullets but they are not quite ready for production but watch on this web site and it will come up when it's GTG:D

    I really dig the 270 WSM but a 1000yrd will be pushing it on elk till we see the Wildcat bullets, you can get it loaded up to do it but things will have to be perfect and shot placement will be absolutely critical, you won't have the steam to rock them through the shoulders. Wind calls will have to be sub moa!!!

    Just a though but I would buy a cheap 308 and shoot the crap out of it and get it to a 1000yrds accurately then get serious about taking the 270 WSM out there, I did a lot of learning with mine and now that I'm getting things nailed my barrel is toast, learning how to cold bore shoot with sub moa wind call takes round count!!!!
     
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  14. jtbear011

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    I was researching more and happened to come across and recognize your threads on different sites. It wasn't till I finished reading the post and looked up and recognized the name. They were the closest thing out there to answering what I had searched.

    Made the change today! Load developments going in for 150 gr. berger to give +1000 ft/lb @ 1000. Good starting point!
    Might I add.. I have read everything you got, and you do give really good info. I could see you feeling out numberd
    No matter how hard you try!

    good job! I'll Keep updating the progress
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