.270 win which bullet for fallow and red

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  1. myponga

    myponga Member

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    I've got a REM .270 win.i don't know weather to use nosler ballistic tips or accubonds. If any one has any idea on which one will be better for fallow and reds. I'm thinking in the 140grn. Also if any one has some tips with type and amount of adi powder. And weather to use magnum primers or large rifle. If any one can help it would be great.
     
  2. FEENIX

    FEENIX Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to LRH and enjoy!

    No, you do not need magnum primers. Both BT and NABs are excellent bullets. However, in order to provide you a sound recommendation(s), we might need more information such as:

    - What is your intended target (elk, deer, etc..) ?
    - At what distance?
    - Barrel length and twist (to take advantage of the 165/175gr from Matrix)
    - Area where you might be hunting (for powder consideration - temp sensitivity)

    We have lots of guys here that are always willing and able to give a hand. I'm sure others will chime in with more information and recommendations. Be patient, the'll be here shortly.

    Good luck!

    Ed
     

  3. Jinx-)

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    Welcome to LRH! In 1:10 I had good luck with 150 gr Nosler BT, I think they can do fine for game you are looking for, but I have never seen fallow or red buck in my neck of the woods. Searching Wikipedia largest fallow buck is about 220 lbs undressed, I think 130 gr bullets would serve you better, I've taken many whitetail bucks in same weight category + with 130 gr SGK, clocked at 3170 fps, of course for longer ranges you will need heavier bullets with better BC, so that's why I pointed to 150 gr Nosler BT, using 53gr of RL-17 I squeezed 3000 fps out of it, according to Alliant website 51.5gr clocked at 2,921 fps as safe point they say... Berger has 150 gr hunting bullet for 270 with better BC G1 0.531, but I never had a chance to try one... So good luck in your quest!
     
  4. Twerkeykiller

    Twerkeykiller New Member

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    I think Jinx is right,
    The Nosler 130 ballistic tip hunting sould serve quite well.
    I push mine on top of 57.5 gr of RL7 with fed 210 primers trimmed, to 2.535
    Out of my Marlin XL7 3 shots I can cover with a dime at 100 yards, every time.
     
  5. Jinx-)

    Jinx-) Well-Known Member

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    It looks like myponga specifically asking for ADI powders, I never used ADI so no idea what they are, with 270 I only used Reloader 17, 19, 22 then Hodgdon 4831SC and H4350 also tried IMR4064, as far as primers LR primers like Federal 200, Federal Gold Match, CCI 200 or Winchester LR work just fine, if you planing on upping your load to the extreme then you might consider magnum primers.
     
  6. 7stw

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    You simply can not go wrong with either bullet you have chosen. However it really depends on what bullet your GUN wants to shoot. I personally love both of them. Even though they are the same profile, they seem to shoot differently , al else being equal. The BT is a little more violent on impact, the AB stays together a little more. I have yet to see a .270 that won't shoot a BT. But sometimes, the AB is a little harder to get to shoot AS consistent. I am shooting Berger 140 VLD's with amazing accuracy. I am working on getting the speed up a little. I find that RL19 has been the most accurate powder, and am using fed 210 primers. This caliber is typically easy to get to shoot, so don't buy too much stuff. Also, 4350 , either flavor, is also a good option. Enjoy the ride, and welcome aboard! AIM SMALL,MISS SMALL, 7 stwlightbulb
     
  7. rscott5028

    rscott5028 Well-Known Member

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    All good advice above. However, you should also refer to a current reloading manual.

    Inside of 300yds, you don't need to stew over it too much. Most 270 loads will do the job.

    Otherwise, you may wish to respond to Feenix's questions and folks here will be happy to provide recipies/opinions.

    Happy hunting!
    Richard
     
  8. Byrnsey

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    myponga 130grain pill should be adequate for both Red & Fallow. The Nosler BT may be marginal on difficult shots such as quartering away but consequently I know blokes that have had problems with the ABs not opening up adequately on Fallow. Personally for those two I would go the BT.

    I would try 2209 it should be just about spot on. If you chose to go to 150 grainers then I would have a look at 2213sc.
     
  9. Derek M.

    Derek M. Well-Known Member

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    Well, first, here's the adi reloading data:

    http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloaders-guide/rifle.asp

    and here's your powder equivalents:

    ADI Powders Handloaders' Guide

    As to the bullets, well, I used the ballistic tip in my 270s for more than 2 decades and have been totally ignorant to any malfunction of the bullet on game. My experience is 100% pass through every time and a bunch of deer. I have no problem recommending any wt of the btip. I'd opt for the 140 or 150 since you only referenced that bullet or the AB and no others.

    Interestingly, I just got home from buying another 8 pounds of H4350 and 5000 Federal 215M primers. I saw they had about 4 jugs of the Reloder 17 and really thought for a moment that I should try it but they have plenty and I may go buy some next week. Never tried that powder yet.
     
  10. FEENIX

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  11. gonewest

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    This is a very simple classic load that has been around awhile and was the favorite of Jack O'conner. 60 grs. H4831sc. mag primer, 130 Hornady sp bullet. Should get about 3050-3100fps and get a very very accurate group.Sight in 2" high at 100yds an your good to go. Good luck. Just don't try and get to fancy this load has been around for a long time and is very deadly.
     
  12. 7stw

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    Man, I read that entire article and was glued to the screen. When it began, I thoughthe was going to end up with a .270 WSM build, but he made up a kick ass .270 win classic style, with a attitude. Very interesting read, and it got my curiosity motor running. I just fell in love with a .270 again, and it is a lot of food for thought. AIM SMALL, MISS SMALL. :D gun) 7 STW.
     
  13. myponga

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    Thanks for all the info guys, adi powder might only be here in Australia. Might go for the ballistic tip 140grn. And ar2209.
     
  14. Reloader222

    Reloader222 Well-Known Member

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    The Ballistic Tips is originally a varmint bullet. When used at higher range velocity it would result in larger meat damage. I am now only using the Accubond bullets - find them to have much higher retaining weight and better wound channel resulting in more one-shot kills.