.25 06 with SHORT barrel...

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  1. zkgeorge

    zkgeorge Member

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    Hi Guy's.

    I recently had my .25 sent into get a Suppressor here in Nz. I left it up to the gunsmith to decide how much to cut the barrel down.... Came back pretty short! Now at 18.5 inches without suppressor and 22 inches with it on.

    Now by most accounts this is rather short for a .25 which like the slow burning powders. It is blowing power out the end into the suppressor but still pretty accurate. I am going to load up some of my own ammo and am guessing I should try slightly faster burning stuff?

    Any pointers / idea's would be appreciated. I have some IMR 4350 which seems to be quite popular for the .25's?

    Many Thank's - George.
     
  2. smirker

    smirker Active Member

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    I think I would try IMR 4350 since you have it and maybe drop down in bullet weight depending on twist and what you are shooting at. Sounds like you mad yourself a .257 Roberts +P
     

  3. lloydsmale

    lloydsmale Well-Known Member

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    Ive allways chuckled at guys that claimed the 2506 was useless with a 22 inch barrel but the 270 was just fine. that said a 18 inch 2506 is a bit short in my opinion. I have to almost wonder what the inside of your suppressor will look like after a couple full power rounds.
     
  4. Sully2

    Sully2 Well-Known Member

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    I have to agree!...My 25AI is a 24" barreled model
     
  5. TOM H

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    Well you really can't do much about the barrel now and I agree with trying maybe IMR-4350 H-4350 or R-17. It be interesting to hear back from you if you chronograph before that barrel was cut and what it is now.

    Gunsmith who does my work threads/install lot of suppressor and he's always having time with his customers on barrel length.

    Well good luck
     
  6. 56Wrecker

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    Unless you have a particular reason for a short barrel and a Suppressor.....
    I'd rebarrel the rifle with a LONG THICK HEAVY (Varmint-Style) barrel ....
    .....so that you can get "full-value" from the 25-06 cartridge.

    Otherwise ...you're just shooting an under-performing rifle.

    just the opinion of a LONG-TIME 25-06 shooter/hunter.

    BUT....this is ONLY MY opinion.....and I have NO idea what your "original objectives" entailed.

    GOOD LUCK !!! :)
     
  7. Sully2

    Sully2 Well-Known Member

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    I have to agree with you. That short of a barrel is FAR too short for any purpose Id have.
     
  8. zkgeorge

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    Appreciate the input guy's..

    It sure does shoot straight and is nice & light / easy for carrying through the bush. I suspect the penalty is reduced velocity but the deer don't complain too much about how fast the bullet is going..

    I am quite interested to see what speeds we are getting so plan to borrow a Chrony. When I find out I will put up the load data here for interest's sake..

    Cheers - George.
     
  9. 56Wrecker

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    George,


    I suspect that you will find ( with Chronograph measurements ) that you are probably equal or somewhat LESS than the velocities of a .257 Roberts.
    (which I consider a FINE caliber in the hands of a GOOD shooter.)

    HONESTLY...let US know WHAT your results are !

    I LIKE the .257 Roberts AND I'm very FOND of the 7X57 Mauser cartridge!
    ( BOTH PERFORM FAR and ABOVE people's estimates....especially in the hands of a Marksman.....and NOT a LOT of felt recoil in most rifles ! )

    Care to guess what caliber has killed the MOST Elephants?
    7mm Mauser

    But...THAT is another Story.....

    Ha-Ha !!!
     
  10. jason frazier

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    hey bud, yea pretty short barrell, but you could try some powders even a little faster than 4350. If you have a chronograph, it would help you see whats going on .
     
  11. Nomad

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    Having a 257 Roberts Improved. Found RL-15 on light bullets 75-87gr shoots well but the best loads are H4350 and 100 gr bullets with 215 primers. You will l have to work up on your loads
    work up .5 and find a sweet spot and refine it which means work on each side of the sweet spot to improve it.....
     
  12. Grant A

    Grant A Well-Known Member

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    Digging this up from the past, wondering if the OP might get an email and chime back in. I found myself thinking about building a short truck gun today and an 18" 25-06 came to mind. No way is is practical from an efficiency standpoint. I bet it's a soft shooting gun though that will knock down a 150-200lb Whitetail inside of 400 yds still :)
     
  13. 56Wrecker

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    My MAIN hunting rifle for many years was a 25-06 Ruger Model 77 Bolt Action with the 26 inch, heavy "Varmint" barrel. VERY ACCURATE !

    However....were it ME...planning a "short-barrel" hunting rifle....
    I would select the 7 X 57 Mauser. You'll get MORE "knock-down power" and a larger variety of available bullets...and about the same slight recoil.

    I don't think a short-barrelled 25-06 makes ANY sense....It defeats the use of the 30-06 case. Might as well be shooting a 250 Savage. WHY burn the extra powder for no increase in performance ?
     
  14. Grant A

    Grant A Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I should have also said that I handload, for 2 30-06s already and finding a good recipe with a faster powder wouldn't be an issue. Factory ammo would absolutely be a waste you're right.
    I'm not by any stretch rushing out to do this, just got to thinking about it and found this thread