25-06 Rem 115 Berger VLD's

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  1. noneck180

    noneck180 Well-Known Member

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    I am about to purchase a 25-06 in a Rem Sendero. I was wondering if any one has info on this caliber and bullet combo? I was wondering what velocities people are getting?

    Thanx Joe
     
  2. johnnyk

    johnnyk Well-Known Member

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    My best accuracy (.390") was with 51.0gn of RL22 and 9.5M primers. Velocity averaged 3044fps. I went up to 51.5gn and velocity was 3062fps but accuracy went over 1". JohnnyK.
     

  3. roninflag

    roninflag Well-Known Member

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    around 49.6 of i-4350 AND a 115 BERGER. WLR primer
     
  4. remingtonman_25_06

    remingtonman_25_06 Well-Known Member

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    I have 2 loads worked up with the 115g VLD's for my rem 700, 24" shilen barreled 25-06.

    50g Rl-22, win case, cci 200, 3.352" (at the lands) 3025fps, 1-2" groups at 400 yards from a bench.

    58.5g Retumbo, win case, WLR, 3.352", 3275fps, 2-3" groups at 400 yards.
     
  5. noneck180

    noneck180 Well-Known Member

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    Now I am not sure to go with a 25-06, 6.5x55, 6.5x284 or 7mm08. The gun is for my kids and nephew. This has been a lot tougher choice than my 7Rem Mag for me :)
     
  6. Bulseyetom

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    I am shooting 50 grains of H4350 in my Weatherby Ultralight into 1/2" groups at 100 yards when I played with the seating depth. I shoot a Browning Single Shot in 25-06 but haven't tried the Bergers in it yet as It loves the 110 grain Nosler Accubond and kills like lightning. For a young person, I highly recomend the 25-06 with 100 grain bullets and have taken numerous mule deer with my single shot with that combo before switching to the Accubond several years ago. I think a Sendero would be too heavy for a kid to pack. I have a Model 7 Remington with KS stock in 7-08 that is a tackdriver and weights only 6 pounds, and my 25-06 Weatherby will shoot with my Browning if I really hunt for the right load and it weights maybe 6.5 pounds. The B78 has long been my hunting rifle as it weighs less than 8 pounds. I love shooting the heavy barrel rifles at the range but on a hunt where I usually shoot only 1 shot I prefer the lightweights! Tomgun)
     
  7. DannoBoone

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    That's pretty darned good. What twist rate is your Shilen barrel?
     
  8. remingtonman_25_06

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    I will be trying some 115g NBT's in this rifle with Retumbo tomorrow morning. I need a good 600-700 yard deer load with the NBT's as I dont trust the VLD's, way to elplosive...Hopefully I can get the same velocity/accuracy around 58-58.5g at around 3250fps.
     
  9. Bulseyetom

    Bulseyetom Well-Known Member

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    I have had excellent luck with a very stout load of Re-25 and 110 grain Accubonds in my Model 78 Browning. I settled on 57.5 grains which is very stout but that is where I lost the vertical stringing. I worked up to 58.5 but primer pockets don't last long which to me is a message to back off. I don't have a chrono but that load is screaming and meat loss has not been an issue, including one buck I hit at 50 yards. Work up from 55 grains in 1/2 grain increments and in my case, I had vertical in the groups until I hit 57.5 and then they are all round. My Weatherby 25-06 shoots that load also but not as accurate as the single shot.
     
  10. DannoBoone

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    remington_25_06, do you know the twist rate of your Shilen barrel?
     
  11. remingtonman_25_06

    remingtonman_25_06 Well-Known Member

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    the twist is 1-10"
     
  12. muliecrazy

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    I have a Sako 75 and I reload 50.5 grains of IMR 4350 and shoot the Triple Shocks and the other bullet is the grand slam. This gun is not a 600-700 yard gun as it does not have enough energy at this range. If you think you need a 600-700 yard gun then go to a 7mm or 300 as they have many different bullets in many different grainsthat are capable of having enough energy for that range. The other thing is this load is around 3000 fps and has a devastating amount of hydraulic energy and bloodshoots the quarter it hits. I would really try and shoot for the neck to avoid a large amount of meat loss.
     
  13. remingtonman_25_06

    remingtonman_25_06 Well-Known Member

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    115g NBT at 3200fps has plenty of power to take deer down up to 600 yards, I know that for fact as more then a few whitetails and muleys have bit the dust at that range from my 25-06's over the years. I think I can squeeze 100 more yards out of them in real good conditions. I stopped using my 25-06 on deer a few years back when I started getting into 800-1000 yard shooting/hunting and started using a 300 RUM and 7 RM. However, I am going to start using it once again as an alternative to my 338 EDGE.

    Anyways, if you go by the old wives tale of "needing" 1000ft lbs, then the 115g NBT at 3250fps still has that out to 650 yards, and is still traveling almost 2000fps, which is more then enough to make it properly expand and do its job. At 700 yards, you are looking at little over 900ft lbs and 1900fps, which IMO, is still plenty for any deer.

    It really is amazing how far standard cartridges with decent bullets will get you. You dont need a magnum to kill deer at 600-700 yards. If your shooting further then that, then yes you need something that is bigger and faster.
     
  14. Aldon

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    I just worked up a load for my older model Sendero 25-06. Blued barrel.

    Using once fired Hornady Brass, Combined Technologies 115gr Ballistic Silvertip(coated), Federal 210 Match Primer, 50gr H4831, I was able to get .324 group with 3 shots. Almost one hole.

    No Chrony yet so I do not know the velocity. Pretty good I believe.

    I have to reload 20 or so and see if this is repeatable, and good at 200 and 300 yadrds, but having shot a group nearly that accurate at 48 gr, I feel it will be.

    From what I have read, the lubalox coating may actually bump the velocity up a bit over normal although it is likely not significant.