25-06 Ackley Improved

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  1. azbroncfan

    azbroncfan New Member

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    Is there any books that have reloading data for this load? Only place I have found is reloadersnest.com. I can't seem to find much info on this load and it looks really intriguing. Are guys really getting 257 weatherby velocities out of it? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. James Jones

    James Jones Well-Known Member

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    I know two guys shooting guns in this caliber (built at the same time with same reamer and barrels) and they are getting just over 3400fps out of a 27" Shilen barrel with a stout load of R-22 , one claims to get 3900 fps with a 75gr V-max bullet. Knowing these two boys I'm sure that they are shooting max loads .
     

  3. Flybuster

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    Yes sir, you can find plenty of load data in Sierra Manual #5. I have posted a couple of my loads on reloadersnest.com also, for speer 87 tnt and 100 grain SMK, under not verified loads. I get 3600 with my 87 grain load, IMR 4350 can go faster too. I think 3900 fps is doable with the 75 grain V-max, I have 10 boxes but they don't shoot good with this particular barrel (1-10, 3 groove). Good luck with this chambering, its been alot of fun. I've added a picture of the this cartridge loaded with the 100gr Sierra Matchking, just for giggles. Here's the link since I cannot post attachments for some reason--- http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/flybuster_photos/100_0128.jpg?t=1194745636
     
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  4. old bear

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    old bear

    In a standard 25-06 I have gotten 3900fps with 414 and 75gr Vmax.With a115 Berger VLD 3200fps the powder of chioce is VHIT N165. This in a Ruger KM77VT 26" My cases were formed from National Match 30-06.In an improved version these velocity's should be doable with no trouble. I have found the N165 is slower than the loades in the vhit manual indicate.
     
  5. azbroncfan

    azbroncfan New Member

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    Thanks for the advice guys as I think I might build one of these.
     
  6. CPerkins

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    I was getting 3660 out of a 100 gr NBT in mine. I'll look up the load if you need it.
     
  7. Hired Gun

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    I have one built on a Ruger All Weather. 100 grain Partitions top out at 3525 with IMR-4350. I also load 75 grain V-Max's to 3850.

    I wouldn't call it 257Wby performance but a solid 150 fps over the parent case. It is worth doing.

    My 257Wby in an Accumark runs the same bullets at 3700 and 3950 respectively.

    If you have a 26" barrel I would just go ahead and make it a 257Wby. Then your brass is ready made.
     
  8. wildcat

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    Azbroncfan, if I were you, I would build a 6x284 for the following reaons;

    1. Lapua Brass
    2. Better bullet selection
    3. No fireforming

    I guess it also depends on what bullets you want to shoot. The 6x284 with a 30", 1-12 twist barrel will push a 75grn V-Max at 3950fps, the 87grn V-Max at 3750fps.

    If you go with the 1-10 twist barrel, the 6x284 will shoot the 87grn V-Max very well and it will shoot the 105 and 107grn bullets well too. The 6x284, with a 30" 1-8 twist barrel barrel, will push a 105 and 107grn bullets at around 3450 to 3500fps.

    The 25-06 AI is a good cartridge too, however, you have to do a bunch of brass prep and fireforming in order to get what you want out of it. I don't think all the case prep and fireforming is worth it.
     
  9. Hired Gun

    Hired Gun Well-Known Member

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    The 257Wby in a 30" barrel is a thing to behold.

    100 grain bullets at 3950.
    75-85 grain bullets at 4100+

    If target bullets are your thing, Berger and Wildcat has a few VLD offerings in .257"
     
  10. Flybuster

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    Whats so hard about shooting full strength 25-06 Rem. loads with bullets seated long, while shooting targets, varmints and rocks etc.? Huh? I use Norma brass, yeah some say its soft. I have shot this brass over a year now, I have bumped the shoulders once. What case prep.
     
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  11. Hired Gun

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    Nothing. I don't even do that for my 25-06AI. I found I do need to trim my brass for length a bit shorter than spec but after that I load full strength improved loads and go hunting. My chamber has the perfect .004" crush fit so I seat just off the rifling or to the magazine box or with 75 grain bullets I only seat .150" into the case then go hunting/shooting.
     
  12. Flybuster

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    For those interested. Here's some of my long range fun with my 25-06 Ackley Imp. this year so far. I have posted links since my posting rules at the bottom of this page says I "may not post attachments" .

    These groups were all fired with the 100 grain Sierra Matchking @ 3300 fps. Imr-4350.

    This was fired at a Baker,Oregon non-sactioned match, group 8.5"
    http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/flybuster_photos/100_0129-1.jpg?t=1195101520

    This was just practice(by myself, no spotter), consist of 2-3shot groups 2 out of the orange (not by far) http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/flybuster_photos/100_0132.jpg?t=1195101580

    This was my first 1000 yard group with the gun, which happened to be the first day of the year. http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/flybuster_photos/100_0130.jpg?t=1195101646
     
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  13. Hired Gun

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    Attachments are uncool. They require you to click to see the pictures. They use them over at 24hr. I don't like them. Links are almost as bad. Why not just post the pictures directly? You can use the code. [​IMG] to show your pictures directly.

    I'd like to see your rifle. The groups are pretty fair considering the distances.
     
  14. Flybuster

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    Here's a rockchuck shot at 535 yrds with my 87 grain load, little windy and it took me three close shots and a not so smart rockchuck. Pictured with my rifle, A Remington 700 Sendero. Factory trigger and stock. Barrel a Lilja.

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    Here is one of my summer shooting spots above Lagrande with my 25-06ackley pictured.

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    I tried the [​IMG] with no spaces and still posted links, sorry not that great with computers.
     
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