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<blockquote data-quote="lloydsmale" data-source="post: 733405" data-attributes="member: 41442"><p>no use getting in a ****ing match here. I stated what a said for one reason only. There are beginning handloaders here that use forums like this to get advice. Giving ANY advice that recomends a load hotter then recomended by a powder manufacture can be dangerous. Flattened primers ARE a sign of excessive pressure. The same load that flattens primers in 40 degree weather can possible blow a gun up in hot weather. when your running on the ragged edge like that a differnt lot of powder or primers can cause a disasterous result Every gun is differnt and the next guy that comes along can load the same load and blow a differnt gun up. Im not going to sit here and say i didnt do it at one time or another either but id never recomend a load like that to somone else. Id hate to be resposnible for someone loosing his sight! Like i said i did it in my younger days but found that an extra 100 fps doesnt buy much if anything in killing deer. Im also fortunute in have quite a few guns and if i want 257 veclocitys in the field i dont grab a 2506 and overload it i grab a 257. If anything anymore i go the opposite route and download guns. My 44 mags or my linebaoughs are rarely shot at top velocitys. Either are my bolt guns. Like i said i dont see any advantage to the practice and i like my guns and my eyes. I dont think anyone here is telling you what to do. If your confortable with it go for it but just keep in mind that new guys read these posts and many will think if 66 grains is safe maybe 56 is too or if its good in your gun its good in mine. Its nice when guys share there experiences.</p><p> </p><p>I allways cringe at posts that guys will claim a 25-06 is everything a 257 wby is or a 280 is everything a 7mag is or an 06 is just as powerful as a 300 win mag. It just isnt at least not with safe loads. Believe me aliant makes re17 and advertises it as a powder that gives a few fps better velocity in some rounds. IF it could make a 2506 into a 257 safely theyd be the first to print data that did it. It would sure help with there powder sales. But it doesnt and never will. So i anytmore stick to what the technitions with there pressure guages telll me. Even a vetran loader like me gets ideas on loads to try off the internet. But we should try to keep it safe and keep in mind that not everyone has loaded and shot 10s of thousands of rounds and has the experience level in handloading to push the envelope over whats saftely recomended and truth be told most who do have outgrown that need for speed anyway and know it buys about nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lloydsmale, post: 733405, member: 41442"] no use getting in a ****ing match here. I stated what a said for one reason only. There are beginning handloaders here that use forums like this to get advice. Giving ANY advice that recomends a load hotter then recomended by a powder manufacture can be dangerous. Flattened primers ARE a sign of excessive pressure. The same load that flattens primers in 40 degree weather can possible blow a gun up in hot weather. when your running on the ragged edge like that a differnt lot of powder or primers can cause a disasterous result Every gun is differnt and the next guy that comes along can load the same load and blow a differnt gun up. Im not going to sit here and say i didnt do it at one time or another either but id never recomend a load like that to somone else. Id hate to be resposnible for someone loosing his sight! Like i said i did it in my younger days but found that an extra 100 fps doesnt buy much if anything in killing deer. Im also fortunute in have quite a few guns and if i want 257 veclocitys in the field i dont grab a 2506 and overload it i grab a 257. If anything anymore i go the opposite route and download guns. My 44 mags or my linebaoughs are rarely shot at top velocitys. Either are my bolt guns. Like i said i dont see any advantage to the practice and i like my guns and my eyes. I dont think anyone here is telling you what to do. If your confortable with it go for it but just keep in mind that new guys read these posts and many will think if 66 grains is safe maybe 56 is too or if its good in your gun its good in mine. Its nice when guys share there experiences. I allways cringe at posts that guys will claim a 25-06 is everything a 257 wby is or a 280 is everything a 7mag is or an 06 is just as powerful as a 300 win mag. It just isnt at least not with safe loads. Believe me aliant makes re17 and advertises it as a powder that gives a few fps better velocity in some rounds. IF it could make a 2506 into a 257 safely theyd be the first to print data that did it. It would sure help with there powder sales. But it doesnt and never will. So i anytmore stick to what the technitions with there pressure guages telll me. Even a vetran loader like me gets ideas on loads to try off the internet. But we should try to keep it safe and keep in mind that not everyone has loaded and shot 10s of thousands of rounds and has the experience level in handloading to push the envelope over whats saftely recomended and truth be told most who do have outgrown that need for speed anyway and know it buys about nothing. [/QUOTE]
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