.223 Long Range Budget Rifle

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by sirhitalot, May 26, 2010.

  1. sirhitalot

    sirhitalot Member

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    Hi, im going to get a .223 rifle for small game and long range shooting. I dont want to buy anything expensive, the only thing thats important for me is good accuracy and a twist rate that lets me shoot heavy bullets (1:9 seems fitting for my purpose), ive seen a bit on the Howa Varmint, but it has 1:12" twist... so for me it seems that the only rifles in the pricerange is the Remington 700 tactical (or VTR)... of cource there is the Tikka T3 lite, but i dont like their magazines....

    any input?
     
  2. ForneyRider

    ForneyRider Well-Known Member

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    Remington SPS Varmint, Howa 1500 Varmint or a Savage equivalent. US550$ or so regular price.
     

  3. teddy12b

    teddy12b Well-Known Member

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    I wanted to make a similar rifle and this is how I did it.

    I went to gunbroker and typed "savage 223" and started watching what was coming up in my price range that had a heavy barrel. I watched for a little while and got a used predator that couldn't have had 50rds through it for about $425. Then I just put on a bushnell 3200 10X that I got brand new on Ebay for 165 to my door. All together I don't have $700 in the rifle & scope. It shoots between 3/4" to 1/2" at 100 yards using 69gr sierra matchkings and doesn't go subsonic until after 700 yards. It's a very accurate, inexpensive rifle that's not too heavy and not too light.

    Now I have a drop chart taped to the stock and have an eagle stock pack on the stock for comfort, but the basic setup is pretty cheap for a rifle that shoots accurately out to 700 yards all things considered.
     
  4. Johnboy

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    I love my 5R in a 223.comes with a 1:9 and shoots great.but does cost alittle more thatn the average rifel.but the same as any 5R does.
     
  5. sirhitalot

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    ive decided for a Savage BVSS (varmint) 1:9", only thing i dislike is that is has a closed box magazine... Ive all ready got a Bushnell tactical elite 6-24x50, a harris and a nice silencer (for .30, but it'll work good on the .223 also...
     
  6. teddy12b

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    Once upon a time I had the exact same rifle and it's very accurate. If you get a chance try some varget with 69gr matchkings and you'll likely be a very happy man. The 12bvss I had with my 69gr matchking & varget handload was still accurate at 800 yards! You're going to love that rifle.
     
  7. sirhitalot

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    ive found a remington 700 used, it has a Lothar Walter barrel with 1:8" twist, but it cost a bit more, how how will it performe against the Savage?
     
  8. Gene

    Gene Well-Known Member

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    Lothar Walter barrels are reputed to be very good, but I never had one. Your request clearly spells the answer: S A V A G E. I have a Model 12 LRPV with 1-7" twist factory barrel that shoots the 80 gr. Berger VLD lights out in competition. Yesterday, I shot a 2 1/2" group at 500 meters with it.

    The big advantage of a Savage, is that you can easily change barrels yourself, avoiding the cost and delay of having a gunsmith do it.
     
  9. teddy12b

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    From my experience shooting next to guys with custom rifles with way too much invested is that they're all proud of their remington custom whatever with a whoever's barrel on it when it shoot a 1/2" or less. Then my smart arse shows up with a factory savage rifle and does the same thing.

    By all mean, if you want the custom whatever go for it and it'll likely serve you well. I won't try to talk you out of something you'd be happy with. For me though, I want accuracy first. Whether it's to be best all around long range gun I have (Savage 110FP 30-06) or a budget inexpensive rifle for cheaper practice (savage predator 223) I choose savage.

    Whatever makes you happy though. I've seen some remingtons I've liked also and I wouldn't mind getting a sps tactical in 308.
     
  10. sirhitalot

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    the remington costs about 300 bucks more, and has a silencer included, so im pretty keen on that, a 50cm 20mm thick L.W. pipe with 1:8" twist cant go wrong, im gona check if i can push the price down a bit... He says it has 300 shots through it, but for some reason 90% of every rifle sold second hand has just a couple of shots through it:rolleyes:
     
  11. teddy12b

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    Sounds like a decent deal. Most guns that get sold usually have a low round count. There's more guns that get sold because of lack of use and the funds are wanted for something else.
     
  12. sirhitalot

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    Ive made the deal now, it only cost me 18 dollars more:D with shipping included!
    wow, looking foreward to testing it. Ive not started handloading yet, but it will come, so i'll only be able to shoot factory loads atm... 1:8" should do about everything...