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215gr Berger Hybrid Target for hunting
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<blockquote data-quote="FURMAN" data-source="post: 1881688" data-attributes="member: 26535"><p>The Berger hybrid is a cup and core bullet maybe brydawg meant compared to bonded? In any case within the first few pages of this post you are just going to see a train wreck. It is mostly going to be because of one of your comments. If you are looking for a bullet stuck in an animal to decide if the bullet performed I would strongly suggest you bypass the Bergers and look for a different bullet. I am the guy you are talking about when I tell you the absolute ONLY thing i care about in "bullet performance" is how fast did the animal die. Having an animal run 500 yards but finding a nice mushroomed bullet inside the animal means the bullet failed to me(which I have seen). Nothing I have every witnessed has put animals down like the Berger 215 period. Shots from 50 yards to 800, it does not matter. I will also tell you that not all hybrids are the same. I just have not been as impressed with the 180 hybrids and personally would stick with the 180HVLDs or try the 175 EH. Most often what you see with non bonded bullets such as all Bergers, is the jacket sheds and destroys the internals while the lead core continues through the animal and exits. As with any bullet there is going to be variance on how the bullet itself reacts/behaves from 50-1000 yards. Most guys that tell you "the bullet failed" have no proof because they have no recovered animal and therefore no bullet. The most likely cause, regardless of the bullet used, is a bad shot placement. I have enough kills with Bergers to know that if you shoot a relatively heavy for caliber bullet such as the 215 it is going to put animals down quickly. I have posted kill vids of Bergers elsewhere on the site. I have no idea what more you could possibly ask form a bullet. I will not post again in this thread. I don't have to time to argue with the naysayers. Some are going to agree with me some are going to disagree. Like I said I have enough kills to know what works. Good luck this fall.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FURMAN, post: 1881688, member: 26535"] The Berger hybrid is a cup and core bullet maybe brydawg meant compared to bonded? In any case within the first few pages of this post you are just going to see a train wreck. It is mostly going to be because of one of your comments. If you are looking for a bullet stuck in an animal to decide if the bullet performed I would strongly suggest you bypass the Bergers and look for a different bullet. I am the guy you are talking about when I tell you the absolute ONLY thing i care about in "bullet performance" is how fast did the animal die. Having an animal run 500 yards but finding a nice mushroomed bullet inside the animal means the bullet failed to me(which I have seen). Nothing I have every witnessed has put animals down like the Berger 215 period. Shots from 50 yards to 800, it does not matter. I will also tell you that not all hybrids are the same. I just have not been as impressed with the 180 hybrids and personally would stick with the 180HVLDs or try the 175 EH. Most often what you see with non bonded bullets such as all Bergers, is the jacket sheds and destroys the internals while the lead core continues through the animal and exits. As with any bullet there is going to be variance on how the bullet itself reacts/behaves from 50-1000 yards. Most guys that tell you "the bullet failed" have no proof because they have no recovered animal and therefore no bullet. The most likely cause, regardless of the bullet used, is a bad shot placement. I have enough kills with Bergers to know that if you shoot a relatively heavy for caliber bullet such as the 215 it is going to put animals down quickly. I have posted kill vids of Bergers elsewhere on the site. I have no idea what more you could possibly ask form a bullet. I will not post again in this thread. I don't have to time to argue with the naysayers. Some are going to agree with me some are going to disagree. Like I said I have enough kills to know what works. Good luck this fall. [/QUOTE]
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