208 A-max's on large big game

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by bearhntr, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. bearhntr

    bearhntr Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    65
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Anyone use 208 A-max's on Moose, elk, big antelope in Africa? 210 Grain Bergers Hunting VLD's are not working well in my factory chambered 300RUM and I was thinking of trying Hornadys. I'd be using them on Moose, Caribou and the occasional Grizzly. There is always the chance of running into a Grizzly up close as well, do they penetrate at all at close range or do they explode?

    What's the experience on the board using these match bullets on (large) big game?

    Thanks
     
  2. jeffro

    jeffro Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    192
    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2006

  3. Varminator 911

    Varminator 911 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2007
    I'd never be caught in Grizzly country with a berger or amax. Make mine an accubond, barnes or other tough hunting bullet. The 200 accubond has enough BC for shots to almost 1000 yds. It would make me much more comfortable if a grizz showed up on a kill.

    I've used both berger and amax at long range and love them. But someone else will have to experiment at close range on dangerous game.
     
  4. Nomosendero

    Nomosendero Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,075
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2005
    In what way is the 210 Berger Unsatisfactory? I ask because I was thinking about trying them.
     
  5. djtjr

    djtjr Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    273
    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2008
    The a-max is am amazing bullet. Have used in africa on big lopes but have not tried it on grizzly so couldn't say. I would not hesitate on using it on all non dangerous game. It would prob be fine for grizzly as well as it destroyed whatever it hit that I have shot but there are better bullets for that particular application.
     
  6. Varminator 911

    Varminator 911 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2007
    Both the Berger 210 and Amax 208 are thinly jacketed target bullets. They will work well on shots thru the ribs and at long range where the velocity is less and therefore penetration is more. But IMO they are not tough enough to take on any really big or dangerous critter head on. In other words I won't want to shoot a charging grizzly bear head on at close range. The man asked for something to possibly defend in grizz country. I'll take a Accubond, partition, North Fork, Swift, or any of the 180 grain all copper bullets any day on a grizz or any shot up close on really heavy game.

    The 200 grain Accubond has a high enough BC to work at long range and enough toughness for bad angle shots, close shots, or dangerous game.
     
  7. B23

    B23 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,086
    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Unless you already have some or know someone who does, you won't have to worry about it because there are no 208Amax to be found anywhere.

    As for shooting anything dangerous or charging, I'm pretty sure I want something more like the 200Accubond or 200TTSX.
     
  8. Varminator 911

    Varminator 911 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    337
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2007

    Good points. I've had the 208 Amax on backorder for months.

    The BC of the 200 Accubond and 200 TTSX are 0.588 and 0.546. Those are both high enough to reach at least 800 yards with a 300 RUM. And the 200 TTSX would be about as good as it gets on very large or dangerous game where you might need to shoot head on in a charge or butt first as they run away wounded.

    On a grizzly I want a bullet that will reach the vitals very time whether I have to stick it up his nose or into his ass. The TTSX will do that very time. The Berger or Amax I don't know what I might get on a desperation shot. Thru the ribs into the lungs on a quartering away shot like you'd shoot a bear with a bow, the Berger and Amax would probably kill a bear DRT.
     
  9. B23

    B23 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,086
    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    The Barnes 200ttsx looks like it could have alot better BC if they would tweak on the design just a little. It's plenty long but the overall profile must not be very high BC minded.
     
  10. bearhntr

    bearhntr Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    65
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010

    They don't shoot well in my rifle. I surmised it was because of the long jump to reach the rifleing. I'm not interested in having my rifles magazine area lengthened