180 TXS at 300 yards

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  1. Dave King

    Dave King Well-Known Member

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    I got this picture from JWP13051 via e-mail I believe he'll make some posts with additional info.

    300 Win Mag @ 300 yards.

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  2. jwp475

    jwp475 Well-Known Member

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    The load consist of Win cases,federal 215 primer,81 grains H-1000 velocity 3073 fps with and extreme spread of 5 fps A Mark X Mauser action with a Douglas XX barrel
     

  3. Dan B

    Dan B Well-Known Member

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    That looks very similar to my results w/ a .300RUM shooting the same 180gr TSX. The gun belongs to a friend and I just did the load development. It's getting 3500fps w/ a stiff load of RL-25, Fed 215 and RP brass. The gun is a factory Savage 116BSS. Did not measure the group...it's only three shots...but I held a case next to the group for comparison. The range was also 300yds.

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  4. jwp475

    jwp475 Well-Known Member

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    That is some serious speed. What barrel lenght?I have gotten my 300 up to 3426 fps and that was all the pressyre she could. My barrel is 27.5' inchs including brake
     
  5. Buffalobob

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    Dan B

    What are the little pellet looking craters from?
     
  6. Dan B

    Dan B Well-Known Member

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    Barrel length....26" factory tube...but I'm shooting a RUM.

    BB...the little marks are from a 22-250 w/ 50gr V-Max's.
     
  7. Dave King

    Dave King Well-Known Member

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    Here are two more picture.

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  8. Takman

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    Now I know why you like the 300 WM. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
     
  9. POP

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    Barrel length....26" factory tube...but I'm shooting a RUM.

    BB...the little marks are from a 22-250 w/ 50gr V-Max's.

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    You're way past your limit bud! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
     
  10. Dan B

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    I worked up slowly and used the same 10 cases for all the load development. After three loads the pockets were still fine..... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
  11. jwp475

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    I worked up slowly and used the same 10 cases for all the load development. After three loads the pockets were still fine..... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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    Dan I wouldn't be too concerned what POP thinks.There are manny on the internet that believe that if they have not seen it or experienced it then it is not possiable. My rifle will not get the speed that you are getting,but that does not mean anything to your rifle
     
  12. POP

    POP Well-Known Member

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    Look... All I am saying is that 3500 fps with a 180 grain bullet out of a 300 RUM is not "natural" from a safety standpoint. I have worked with over 20 300 RUM's and I have never seen such speed safely. The most I have experienced with acceptable Case head expansion is 3350-3375 MAX.

    BTW jwp475 :

    What is there to see? I am not saying it is not possible because I have not seen it. I am saying it is possible but probably not safe! All you have to do is add powder to realize such speeds!
    We are not talking about taking an elk at 800 with Matchkings here. We are talking about Physics! No one can fool or beat physics! No such thing as a free lunch remember? So if you do not understand my posts please do not patronize me.
     
  13. Eaglet

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    Dan B,

    Gentlemen,

    In the most peaceful possible way let me say this, POP is right!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve also reached 3500 f/s with 180 gr. Barnes triple shock and definitely is not right… that’s a time bomb especially with that powder which is temperature sensitive.
    Three reloading and primer pocket still ok? Dan, what chronograph are you using?
    The max range velocities that POP mentioned is what I had figured would be about max and equally safe. 3400 f/s out of a 26” barrel makes me nervous! I have been reloading for almost 35 years and I have always liked working up carefully to its very limits and obtaining 3500 f/s with 180 gr. Is doable, but not for me to carry around, I intend to live to get even older! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

    Respectfully,

    Javier O Moncada.
     
  14. Dan B

    Dan B Well-Known Member

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    Gentlmen...I respect the knowledge and experience on this website and WILL back down my RUM load.

    BTW...I am using an Oehler 35P chrony.