OK, I'm back on the Berger team! I'm not completely through with my load development but I did get a 3-shot .2935" group today. I used 63.5gn of N560 and 9.5M primer. Instead of "up to" or "in to" the lands, this time I tried .020" jump (tried .010" at the very first). Definitely a move in the right direction. JohnnyK.