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Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by WEATHERBY460, Apr 8, 2014.
I am shooting at 600 yard targets...which bullet would I be happier with? Thanks
If shooting targets only, try the Nosler Custom Competition 168gr or 175gr bullets. My gun shoots them both very well.
If hunting, the Berger 168 VLD bullets will be great for you, with around 44.0gr of Varget (you'll need to fine-tune for your gun ).
I shoot Sierra PALMA 155 for 600 yards and they are great, getting 2975fps out of a 26" barrel with my load, the load and rifle are more accurate than I am.
The ideal bullet and load for your rifle will depend on a lot of things starting with your barrel twist rate.
Figure out what twist rate you have and that will be your starting point.
I like the 155gr berger hunting vld for my gun. If you are strictly shooting 600 yds in a match type environment the 168 would be better suited. If you are shooting various ranges and just out having fun I prefer the 155s. The wind affects them more but there is less drop to deal with. I shoot at a friends 500 yard range and we have groundhog poppers setup at various ranges. I like to try and shoot them by just holding over (practice without a rangefinder. In case of a needed quick second shot) it's easier with the 155s @2950.
I use Nosler CC 155 and 168 for targets in 308. Price vs accuracy is hard to beat.
Tried them in my 300Wby. Just stop a 3/8" 5 shot group with this gun on shot 11-16.
I have to agree with mudrunner on the 168's. That is what I use in my rifle. I use the Berger hybrid. With the highest BC in any o the middle weight bullets for a .308, it's a no brainier. Anyway, shooting to 600, the 168 is a great compromise in weight, velocity and wind deflection. The custom comps are good bullets.
Berger 168 VLD behind a stiff load of varget in my rifle as well. I have pulled it out to about 800 yards with no issues. I use the target version for practice and hunting version during open season.
waiting for the snow to clear in the mountains around here to get some more practice in. gun)
In my .308 with a factory 1-12 twist barrel 168's would all be .5-.75 MOA performers. shot Nosler, Matchking, Amax all wiht good results. took it out to 1K a few times. Shootin to 600 was getting too easy. don't remember exact load data but the AMAX load that shot best was pushed by 46gr of Varget seated 5 thousandths off lands. Had to load single shot to feed a cartridge that long in a short action.
That's the ONLY downfall to a Remington 700 short action receiver, IMO. But, you could always install a Wyatt's extended mag box, but you have to have a smith mill out the bottom of the receiver and the stock so it all works right. But for the money it would be worth having your SA as a repeater. I'm thinking of doing that to my 5R MilSpec .308 simply because it loves the big Berger 210 VLD's seated into the lands, and it's FAR from being able to load those into the mag box. Single-shot only.
My .308 loves the 168gr barnes ttsx bullets with 44.5 grains of varget shoots amazingly. I was out shooting yesterday to make sure my gun is good to go for bear season and I shot .626 outside to outside and point of impact was .318 at 100 yards. Shot using Tikka t3 Superlite 22 inch barrel
Can anyone help me locate a box of the berger 168 hybrids?
Looks like precisionreloading.com has they 168 hybrid. They are about $3-4 more than usual.
I would say it depends. I've shot 1000 yards plus with everything from a 155 to 200 gr bullet during 308 load development. There were three main considerations that drove whether I ended up in the heavy end, light end, or in the middle; twist, base to ogive length, and precision velocity node.
Twist: straight forward, will it or will it not stabilize a bullet. If not, out of consideration.
Base to Ogive length: Important for those long bullets in a short throat. What is my OAL to lands? I prefer and look toward the heavies first. Will a short OAL to lands cause too much of a compressed load with the heavies for the velocity I'm looking to obtain?
Velocity node: Where is my velocity node for each weight bullet? Some gun/bullet combinations perform better at or near max pressure, some less.
Sometimes the lighter bullet with a very high velocity produces less wind drift at long range than a heavier bullet with a slower velocity (usually the case with a short throat).
It depends! I've experienced success with weights from 155-200 and all between. If you are shooting a SAAMI chamber don't overlook those lighter bullets in the 155 to 168 gr weight, especially the high BC ones like the Hybrids mentioned.