1038 YD ELK vs. 338 EDGE

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by Shawn Carlock, Oct 31, 2006.

  1. Shawn Carlock

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    I got up early to go to work this morning and drove to my shop. I noted on my 15 minute drive to work that it was about 20 degrees, clear, and only a slight wind. This was the first cold snap of the year for north Idaho. I thought that the conditions were almost perfect for a particular long range hunting spot I have for mule deer and elk. Now I was able to take a few days off and take my dad hunting for his first elk and that was a huge bunch of fun, but I had not been able to take any additional time for myself to go hunting. So as I looked around the shop mapping out the days work I decided that the day would go much better if I took a couple hours and went hunting. It just made perfect sense to me that if I went hunting for just a few hours that the day would just go better. So I change into my gear that I keep in the truck all season for just such a hunting emergency grabbed my 338 Edge (like what else would I take) and headed out.
    I arrived at the location I park the truck about 20 minutes later and threw on my Elberstock pack, with the Edge and the various tools of the LRH craft. I walked about 10 minutes from the truck to a small knob that overlooks several ridge fingers of alder patches, grass, and broken timber patches. I had barely got the pack off when in the grey light of the morning when I spotted 3 or 4 shapes I though were elk. I slipped the pack off and snatched up my binoculars on the chest strap. I spotted 4 elk but could not see that any were bulls. Hoping on or more were spikes or small bulls I drug the Edge, the Kestrel, spare ammo carrier with drop chart, and my Swarovski range finder out. I used the NF 5.5-22 NXS as a spotting scope. The 4 elk I had seen were in fact all cows. I lazed them at 1053 yards. I was looking at them hoping that one would grow a set of spikes in the grey light but knowing that that was hopeless (the NF optics are worth every penny) when I caught a short bugle coming from further down the ridge. I grabbed my binoculars up and spotted 3 bulls down the ridge from the cows. Two of the bulls were 4-6 point animals and one spike. I lazed the group at 1038 yards. I got in behind the rifle and looked at the ACI it was on .98, I quickly multiplied 1000 x .02 and knocked 20 yards off of 1038 in my head giving a flat line distance of 1018 yards. I looked at my drop chart and got 24.50 moa for 1025 yards, so I dialed up 24.25 moa. I had a slight breeze 3-4 mph and quartering, I dialed .75 moa to the right. I put my earplugs in and settled in behind the Edge again and watched the bulls milling around. One bull was a 4-5 point raghorn, one was a larger 5 point and then the spike. Since I had only limited days to hunt this year and none of them was a monster I decided to take the first one of the two larger bulls that provided a good shot. I didn’t have to wait long before the smaller raghorn turned to a quartering forward position. I place the cross hairs in front of the front shoulder aiming for the off shoulder through the chest cavity. I squeezed the trigger and felt the slight recoil of the Edge (muzzlebrakes are wonderful things). I recovered to the bull just in time to see him hump up a little and spin to trot off like he was hit, but obviously not a shoulder breaking hit. I racked in a second shell to shoot again. The bull was moving up the ridge parallel to my position, I used the NPR2 reticule to trap and lead him 5 moa for the trot and squeezed the second shot off. I again recovered to see the bull stop turn straight away and walk into the alder out of sight. I watched the other two bulls looking in his direction trying to figure out what was going on when they just took off running. I had seen this many times and knew that the bull had crashed to the ground. I hiked back to the truck and grabbed my camera tripod and ditched everything but meat cutting gear and bags. I hike down to the spot where the first round had been fired and saw dig out marks where the bull had taken off at the first shot but no blood trail. I walked up the ridge toward the location of the second shot and not a drop of blood, no hair nothing. I turned at the obvious pivot marks on the frosty ground (did I mention it was cold?) I followed the direction the bull had walked off about 10 yards and saw a few drops of blood. I looked up and saw the bull laying in front of me about 20 yards. The bull had traveled about 50 yards total. I first checked to see where the hits were like any long range guy does. The first shot landed within inches of my aiming point just in front of the left shoulder and passed through just behind the right shoulder. The round was a good shot it just failed to connect with the bone. The second moving shot was good on elevation but a little further back than I’d have like entering just behind the rib cage and passing out the other side between a couple of the rear most ribs. Bullet channel and penetration performance was excellent for the range. Both shots were good lethal shots even with the last being back a little far. I grabbed up my cell phone and called Jr. and Brandon my hunting buddies who gladly left the hunt they were on to come and help me pack out. I have said it once and I’ll say it again good hunting buddies are tough to find. I had the elk boned out and bagged up when they arrived and the three of us made one trip and had it packed out. Now if I can get Kirby hooked up with a tanker of a whitetail buck it will have been a great season.


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  2. MTM

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    NICE SHOOTING /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     

  3. srhaggerty

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    Nice bull and great shooting.
     
  4. remingtonman_25_06

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    Great shooting Shawn! Nice story and bull as well. It sure is cold here to. I"m gonna have to start calling for coyotes soon!
     
  5. lovdasnow

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    great story, thanks for sharing.

    you are only making it harder to decide what caliber I need to have my 700 made into after this season...
     
  6. Fiftydriver

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    Shawn,

    Comgrats my friend, great story and results as well!!!

    I have no doubt we will get on a shooter whitetail, that is if the weather co operates!!! Nothing we can do about that though. The lightweight 7mm AM is ready out to 1000 yards if needed and I am getting very comfortable with the heavy 7mm AM out to 1300 yards or so. With a couple more days of range testing the drop chart we should be in good shape.

    Should be a blast and taking a good buck will hopefully just be icing on the cake!!!

    Again, congrats on two fine shots and a great elk!!

    Kirby Allen(50)
     
  7. 7mmRHB

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    Nicely done Shawn!!!

    As far as Elk vs. Edge I believe it was (no contest).

    Can't wait for the Big Boomer vs. Whitetail story in a few weeks!!!! good luck and great shooting.---RHB
     
  8. Mountainsheep

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    Shawn,
    Great story &amp; fantastic shooting! I also thought about going elk hunting this morning but the conditions at my office were obviously different than yours! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Good luck to both you &amp; Kirby on your upcoming whitetail hunt.
    Dave
     
  9. longgunshooter

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    Admireable shooting...naw.... thats ENVIOUS SHOOTING!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

    Good Luck on the Whitetail hunt!
     
  10. bsb

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    nice job carlock! wish I was there with you.
     
  11. Buffalobob

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    I see you didn't tote the gun up the hill for the picture either. I recognize the types of vegetation and mostly I recognize the steepness of the mountian.

    Really a fine second shot on a moving animal a 1K+. I saw it done once on a person but have not heard of anybody before who actually did it on an animal.
     
  12. Shawn Carlock

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    When I hunt without a spotter and am certain there was a hit but uncertain where because I didn't see impact or a blood spot appear in the right location I shoot untill it is down. That is the reason for the moving shot. I have practiced on moving targets quite a bit in various sniper classes and have a good feel for it as long as it is not the primary shot. I'd have let the 2 bulls walk away if they had not stopped at that distance. Just for the record trapping the animal is much more consistant for me than tracking a sustained lead at long range. Thanks all for the compliments.
     
  13. heatseekins

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    Nice shawn /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Congrats....

    we have been seeing some nice whitetails and it is getting cold, so its time for the big boys to come out...Good luck to you and Kirby
     
  14. ewallace

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    nice shooting /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif