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.1 mil or .25 moa, which is best for long range precision shooting?
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<blockquote data-quote="Karoo" data-source="post: 1184950" data-attributes="member: 90833"><p>Guys, I do Palma target style shooting, long range hunting and I am in the armed forces. I understand both MOA adjustments and Mil adjustments for long range shooting and use them both extensively. I am going to start off by saying I favour Mil adjustments for long range shooting. It is by far easier to correct and understand than MOA adjustments. Especially should you require to engage with a second shot and you have a spotter with a reticle in his scope or spotting scope that can see what you are seeing. </p><p></p><p>MOA adjustments are much finer than Mil adjustments, however if you combine your Mil adjustment scope with a more modern reticle like the H59 or Tremor II reticle, it is a complete different ball game. Then there is no comparison between them. Not only in terms of simplicity but also versatility of that combination. If for instance you are dialing in for a long range shot and you utilize the more modern H59 reticle, you can aim of far more accurately than with a normal mildot reticle. In regards to versitility, there are a whole list of them. There are for instance very easy and quick wind formula's that you can use, quick shooting formulas up to 600m and other that cannot be named on this forum. </p><p></p><p>I know that MOA adjustment scopes were on the market way before Mil adjustment scopes and my opinion is that it is unfair to vote between the two because people use normally what they are use to and they were not properly exposed to it yet. I have and my opinion I know is going against most people out there. Not to upset people even more, but just think of it: if the MOA adjustments scopes are the way forward, how come all the top tier 1 military units(90% of them) are using Mil adjustment scopes and reticles? I can asure you that all of those guys would have tested MOA and Mil scope side by side and at the end of the day, 90% went for a Mil based scope. Another thing is the longest kill shots(more than on record)ever were taken from Mil based scopes and reticle. </p><p></p><p>My intention here is really not to upset you guys. All I am saying is that the Mil based scopes from my point of view is far easier to understand and more practicle. Combining a Mil based scope with the correct reticle(1st focal plane) it is by far the better option.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Karoo, post: 1184950, member: 90833"] Guys, I do Palma target style shooting, long range hunting and I am in the armed forces. I understand both MOA adjustments and Mil adjustments for long range shooting and use them both extensively. I am going to start off by saying I favour Mil adjustments for long range shooting. It is by far easier to correct and understand than MOA adjustments. Especially should you require to engage with a second shot and you have a spotter with a reticle in his scope or spotting scope that can see what you are seeing. MOA adjustments are much finer than Mil adjustments, however if you combine your Mil adjustment scope with a more modern reticle like the H59 or Tremor II reticle, it is a complete different ball game. Then there is no comparison between them. Not only in terms of simplicity but also versatility of that combination. If for instance you are dialing in for a long range shot and you utilize the more modern H59 reticle, you can aim of far more accurately than with a normal mildot reticle. In regards to versitility, there are a whole list of them. There are for instance very easy and quick wind formula's that you can use, quick shooting formulas up to 600m and other that cannot be named on this forum. I know that MOA adjustment scopes were on the market way before Mil adjustment scopes and my opinion is that it is unfair to vote between the two because people use normally what they are use to and they were not properly exposed to it yet. I have and my opinion I know is going against most people out there. Not to upset people even more, but just think of it: if the MOA adjustments scopes are the way forward, how come all the top tier 1 military units(90% of them) are using Mil adjustment scopes and reticles? I can asure you that all of those guys would have tested MOA and Mil scope side by side and at the end of the day, 90% went for a Mil based scope. Another thing is the longest kill shots(more than on record)ever were taken from Mil based scopes and reticle. My intention here is really not to upset you guys. All I am saying is that the Mil based scopes from my point of view is far easier to understand and more practicle. Combining a Mil based scope with the correct reticle(1st focal plane) it is by far the better option. [/QUOTE]
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