I am torn between calibers. I will start by saying this rifle is intended for carrying so weight is a facter. In addition I intend to use this rifle for elk sized game inside of 1200 yards. That being said most of my shots will be taken between the 500 to 1000 yard range. I have experience in longrange hunting with a custom 6.5-.284 I had built off of a Rem. 700 action and Shilen barrel (to heavy to carry). Anyways, here are the choices...Weatherby Accumark in .338 Lapua, Remington Sendero in 300 RUM, or Remington Sendero in 7mm Rem mag. Help me out with your thoughts backed by any data that is relevant.
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highridge1
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I would go sendero in 300 RUM an shoot 200-230 gr bullets. For me the remington would be more likely to shoot accurate than the weatherby and there are much more aftermarket options for the remington. I would take the 300 ultra over the 7 mag because you can shoot, heavier bullets ,faster, more down range energy, and just simply a better long range killer.
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I'm having almost the exact same debate. I can't decide between a .300 RUM or a Savage 338 Lapua, or a 338 Edge. Mine would also be a hunting carry rifle as well. The RUM is a flatter shooting out to 1000, but the 338's hit harder and will shine past that. Not to mention better barrel life. The savage 111 long range hunter and the 110 FCP seem to be great shooters from the research I've done on this site. The 110 is a little more than a pound heavier than the 111 but it comes with the HS precision stock so it may be worth it. What does the Accumark weigh in at, and what does it cost? That might be a great option too! Soo many choices and so little $!
MHO
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Plus one one the 300 RUM.
winmag
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My opinion is 300RUM launching big Bergers if Most of your hunting is 500 on the short side, to 1k on the long side of the average, with a rare exception beyond 1k.
I think this way, you can go with a lighter platform, & get the performance you seek.
If your wanting to consistantly drop the hammer on Elk past 1k on a regular basis I'd go with the 338 Edge or bigger & build a heavier rifle that's not too fun to pack.
The big 338's just don't give up anything, except recoil, to smaller, lighter bullets, & Recoil is not an issue when the proper brake is utilized.
Stats, & number crunching can be fun, but remember momentum wins in the end. Like B.C. to Like B.C. I will Always pick the heavier bullet or heavier caliber. Even if tiny lil bullet "x" gets to the Target with "x" speed, & "x" amount of "energy", it still has to have enough "***" to perform properly on a big heavy boned critter. After its made contact, the tiny bullets shed momentum rapidly in comparison. A.K.A. Momentum wins again.
A Peterbuilt at 55mph vs Geo at 110mph.... Hmmm Ya, even at twice the speed, ill betcha the most lugg nutts still wins the wreck every time.
I think this way, you can go with a lighter platform, & get the performance you seek.
If your wanting to consistantly drop the hammer on Elk past 1k on a regular basis I'd go with the 338 Edge or bigger & build a heavier rifle that's not too fun to pack.
The big 338's just don't give up anything, except recoil, to smaller, lighter bullets, & Recoil is not an issue when the proper brake is utilized.
Stats, & number crunching can be fun, but remember momentum wins in the end. Like B.C. to Like B.C. I will Always pick the heavier bullet or heavier caliber. Even if tiny lil bullet "x" gets to the Target with "x" speed, & "x" amount of "energy", it still has to have enough "***" to perform properly on a big heavy boned critter. After its made contact, the tiny bullets shed momentum rapidly in comparison. A.K.A. Momentum wins again.
A Peterbuilt at 55mph vs Geo at 110mph.... Hmmm Ya, even at twice the speed, ill betcha the most lugg nutts still wins the wreck every time.
J E Custom
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If it is a dedicated Elk rifle I would opt for the 338.
All round rifle the 300 would be my choice.
The Sendero is a little heavy but not bad. The Accumark is lighter and is also a good shooting rifle.
With a lighter rifle you may consider a muzzle brake for ether the 300 or the 338.
J E CUSTOM
Thanks for the input guys. I was leaning towards the 300 RUM pushing 210gr Bergers to begin with but just couldn't finalize the decision. This gun's purpose will be for a broad range of uses that go from the longer (800-1000yd) shots on whitetail, pronghorn, and muley's to mid range shots (600-under) on elk. Of course those are all just planned yardages and we all know how things like to vary from the "plan". So in the end I need a general purpose rifle that will kill an elk @ 1000 yds and I think the 300 RUM is more than capable. Keep the opinions coming!
WildRose
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Not really much to add. The Rum will meet your needs very well.
angus-5024
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The RUM will suffice. The Lapua will outperform you expectations. You can get the Lapua to shoot as flat if not flatter than the RUM with 225-250 grain bullets, many of wich still have good b.c's. I really like the 300 RUM, but when you go bigger it just gets better.
Then the actuall rifle comparison. You cant even compare the quality of a Senduro to an Accumark. Wby wins hands down. The action is stronger, smoother, and has a shorter throw. The Accumark is about ideal for a hunting rifle when it comes to weight, not to heavy and not to light. That being said, the Wby is also alot more $$$ and they have almost 0 aftermarket parts.
The Remington is good, actually the Senduro's are great, especially for the price.
Then the actuall rifle comparison. You cant even compare the quality of a Senduro to an Accumark. Wby wins hands down. The action is stronger, smoother, and has a shorter throw. The Accumark is about ideal for a hunting rifle when it comes to weight, not to heavy and not to light. That being said, the Wby is also alot more $$$ and they have almost 0 aftermarket parts.
The Remington is good, actually the Senduro's are great, especially for the price.
highridge1
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The weatherby accumark is a awesome rifle and I have had several, but trying to lapp 9 lugs in to full contact instead of 2 is tough. The reason I would go sendero is if it doesn't shoot great out of the box it will usually be easier to get it to shoot excellent. Weatherby's seem like if they don't shoot excellent it's more of a chore to get them there. Just find a sendero 338 Ultra that should be easy.....
liltank
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300 Win Mag load with 230 Berger's at 2700 fps! Out of your choices, 300 RUM with 230 Berger's!
angus-5024
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The weatherby accumark is a awesome rifle and I have had several, but trying to lapp 9 lugs in to full contact instead of 2 is tough. The reason I would go sendero is if it doesn't shoot great out of the box it will usually be easier to get it to shoot excellent. Weatherby's seem like if they don't shoot excellent it's more of a chore to get them there. Just find a sendero 338 Ultra that should be easy.....
The thing is that I have never seen a Wby Mark V not shoot well out of the box.
