shepherd scopes 1st focal vs.

[jeremywwallace]

Looking for some opionions suggestions and preferences on a good scope for my Remington 700 ss 5r. 308 ive looked at shepherds and am interested in them for long range shooting at unknown distanceaany advice appreciated

 

[wyomingblizzard]

I have two sheperds, one one a 22-250 with 9'' circles matched to 52 grn load, is ok to 400 yards. The other is on a.340 weatherby, it has 24'' circles, After load work up I called sheperd and told them balistic data but all they wanted was cartrige and bulet wieght. It is not acurate at all when it comes to using the hold points longer the range worse it is. Optics are good though.

 

[joseph]

My hunting buddy had one on his 7mm STW and got a Vortex 6-24x50mm FFP MOA scope to replace the Shepard. He loves the PST FFP MOA.

joseph

 

[wyomingblizzard]

I am takeing the one off my 340 weathrby, saveing up for a nightforce.

 

[timmay]

they arent cool enough so you wont see anything good about them here..all youll here are from the nightforce crowd because for right now its cool to own nightforce.

 

[extreme]

they aren't cool enough so you wont see anything good about them here..all you'll here are from the nightforce crowd because for right now its cool to own nightforce.

i agree 100 % with you. ...i own 5 shepherds ,,, three are on 338/378 wby mags and a custom 7mm and 300 wby mag. I have killed elk at 800/900/ and 1080 yards with shepherd scopes with no problems.

The statement above says the rest.i also own nightforce,schmidt & bender ,and others but dan shepherds scopes for the money are great.

 

[Nomosendero]

i agree 100 % with you. ...i own 5 shepherds ,,, three are on 338/378 wby mags and a custom 7mm and 300 wby mag. I have killed elk at 800/900/ and 1080 yards with shepherd scopes with no problems.

The statement above says the rest.i also own nightforce,schmidt & bender ,and others but dan shepherds scopes for the money are great.

Good to know, I had one I bought about 1988 or so. I could not keep the secondary crosshair I think they called it (whichever one had the circles), from moving with use. 2 other friends had a Shepherd scope & one of those had to be sent in. I thought 2 out of three with issues were bad odds & got rid of mine.

But then again, that was 20 years ago, maybe they have made the insides tougher since then, that would be good.

 

[Trikstr]

Saw a demo at the VHA Jambore in 95. Purchased one in 97. Noticed that crosshair would shift when changing power setting. Called to find out if I should send it back and they didn't seem to think anything was wrong. Sold it.

 

[joseph]

I think the Shepherds were a good idea in their day, but there are better systems today.

Joseoh

 

[extreme]

good to know, i had one i bought about 1988 or so. I could not keep the secondary crosshair i think they called it (whichever one had the circles), from moving with use. 2 other friends had a shepherd scope & one of those had to be sent in. I thought 2 out of three with issues were bad odds & got rid of mine.

But then again, that was 20 years ago, maybe they have made the insides tougher since then, that would be good.

like i said 3 of the scopes are on 338/378 wby mags and as you know
these are heavy recoil rifles..between family and friends and my own
,,i know of 9 of theses scopes and we all hunt hard on and off of horses every year and not one has had a issue..i\

i dont believe thats all just luck..are there better scopes out there
(yes) like my s & b but you'll pay 3 times more money and thats the bottom line most of the time ,,,money

 

[jeremywwallace]

Rock and a hard place ive heard good and bad im sure it would be the same with any scope all info is appreciated

 

[greenejc]

Personally, I own 4 of them. Two P2s, one Shootist and 0ne P1A. I've owned Leupold VX3s and Burrises and the Shepherds are just as clear and crisp as they were. My Shootist was bought in 1985 in Hawaii, and has been on a HK91 and a .35 Whelen, which recoils about as much as a .338WM. I sent it back to Dan (who died this Spring if you didn't know) for a check of the parallax and because the power adjustment had gotten stiff.
He sent it back to me about 45 days later after completely rebuilding it. The only thing he didn't do was replace the lenses because the lens maker for that old scope is out of business. It cost me $15.00 shipping and handling. I've used that scope all over Colorado and Kansas for 25 years without any zero problems.
My P-2s are a 1995 model and a 2007 or 8 model, I don't remember exactly. The 1995 model will get out of zero by 1 click, sometimes. (That's about 1/4" at 100yds). Since I can see the change(dual reticles) I just click it back 1 click for windage. I have verified the adjustments for this scope about 30 times and its still on zero. Its mounted on a Ruger M77MKII and I didn't have any problems with initial zero, either. Hits on deer to 500yds with Sierra or Nosler high BC bullets. Multiple deer taken in less than a minute in Kansas at ranges from 200 to 400yds without having to adjust anything.
The other newer P-2 is on my .35 Whelen, and I have put several hundred rounds through it using 225gr Sierras and 250gr. Speers at both targets and deer. I'm looking forward to taking it Elk hunting this Fall in Colorado. It has had no problem retaining zero and the circles are spot on out to 600-700yds, which is probably farther than I will be willing to shoot at an elk. I don't want a wounded animal and I know my limitations (I hope). The last one isn't mounted yet, but its going on a 300wm.