copper fouling?

[sniperboy]

Hi to all

I ve been spending hours trying to clean my 338 lapua every time i use it. I ve tried two different bore solvents and the current one been tjm bore solvent, but cant seem to get it out fast.
What solvents are people using and recommend?

Thanks
sniperboy

 

[Michael Eichele]

Try some JB bore paste. I dont recomend using large doses often, but for a stubborn barrel, it can clean her up and in a hurry. Make sure you brush out the paste when done with a solvent and then swab it clean with patches. Some wet, some dry.

 

[Pdvdh]

Here are a few pertinent threads. I use Gun Juice (bore treatment) and KG products for cleaning. I'm interested in trying Bore Tech Eliminator, but I have not used it to date.


http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f28/gun-juice-what-36353/

http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f23/bore-tech-eliminator-17834/

http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f23/kg-1-kg-12-bore-cleaning-products-41647/

 

[MontanaRifleman]

For quick cleaning at the range, I recommend Bore Tech Eliminatior. I have found out that Bore Tech will eat away at brass jags, so you need to use either a plastic jag or a nylon brush with a patch wrapped around it. If you use a brass jag with a copper solvent you will always get a blue residue on your patch... which might be happening to you now?

The best overall product I have used is Wipeout. Wipeout is a spray in foam product and needs to set for a few hours. You spray it down your bore, let it soak, then patch it out with two or three patches. I usually let it set overnight. I have an old Ruger M77 7mmRM that fouls very badly. The first time I tried Wipeout on it, it took about 7 applications before the bore was clean, but I know it was completely clean becuase I had a gunsmith borescope to check the condition of the barrel. It was down to bare metal throughout. Not a hint of copper or powder. My Sako (which I broke in) cleans with about one or two applications of Wipeout. A whole lot easier than patching, scrubbing and patching for hours.

 

[KQguy]

I pretty much agree with MontanaRifleman,Wipeout and BoreTech Eliminator are pretty much the best products I have ever tried.I use Bore Tech most of the time,I use Wipeout about every 3rd cleaning.Also,I recomend using a nickel plated jag with these products,because they will attack anything made out of brass,also use nylon brushes like stated above.

 

[Varmint Hunter]

If you're going to use Wipe-Out than you may as well use their "Accelerator" too. The Accelerator really speeds up the process, is easy to use, and a bottle will last as long as a dozen cans of foam, if not more.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Natty Bumpo]

I like WipeOut as well, although I usually try and patch out most of the carbon fouling before using it.

Among faster acting copper solvents, I've used Butch's Bore Shine, Barnes, Bore Tech, Montana Extreme, and Shooters Choice Copper Remover. For tackling copper, I like the Shooter's Choice Copper Remover best. But Barnes and Montana Extreme are also good.

I've never tried Sweet's 7.62, Montana Extreme 50BMG, or Tipton's Copper Solvent.

 

[Boman]

You might try this stuff out. It's getting some great reviews. I have some on order and will be testing it out. If you do a search you'll get lots of reviews. Here is the site.

Ultra Coatings, Inc. - Ultra Bore Coat

 

[trueblue]

TM Solutions is the best stuff I have used. I don't ever use a brush. On a rare occasion, I will use Sweet's, but most of the time it's not necessary. Don't like using Wipeout due to the mess. After cleaning bore, I will put a coat of gunoil down barrel, and run a dry patch down to remove excess oil.

 

[MontanaRifleman]

TM Solutions is the best stuff I have used. I don't ever use a brush. On a rare occasion, I will use Sweet's, but most of the time it's not necessary. Don't like using Wipeout due to the mess. After cleaning bore, I will put a coat of gunoil down barrel, and run a dry patch down to remove excess oil.

I've read a few comments on how messy Wipeout is so I thought I would jump in and no flame intended here.

I take a piece of paper towel and roll it up like plug about the size of the chamber, then lightly insert it part way into the chamber, then push the bolt up behind it to keep it from being pushed out by the foam. Then I spary it down the muzzle. The foam will expand back out the muzzle and I take another paper towel and wipe that away. If you have a wood stock you want to make sure that you get it all off the wood because it will eat away the finish. Real easy to use IMHO and no more messy than pushing wet patches through a bore.

-MR

 

[Pdvdh]

You might try this stuff out. It's getting some great reviews. I have some on order and will be testing it out. If you do a search you'll get lots of reviews. Here is the site.

Ultra Coatings, Inc. - Ultra Bore Coat

I've purchased and tried this product also. I would recommend Gun Juice as a better product. Gun Juice is more time consuming and tedious to apply properly, but the results will be better if applied properly, in my opinion. It would take too long to explain the details, but I summarize by recommending Gun Juice over Ultra Bore Coat based on my experiences.

 

[loaders_loft]

I use Wipe Out Products called "Accelerator" and "Patch Out". Usually takes 3 applications to get clean. Once in awhile, I use the sprayfoam wipeout on a rifle, but I usually only use it for handguns.

Apply 2 patches of accelerator, then 2 patches of patch out. Sit 15 minutes then dry patch out.

After the first application with patches most of the big mess will be gone, so swap your jags for 2 wool mops. Wool mops are way nicer than cotton - they retain loft, generate suds better, dry quicker and last longer. I like to set up 2 rods - one with a mop for accelerator and the other with a mop for patch out.

Mop in the accelerator then mop in the patchout. Run the patch out mop up and down a bit, to work up suds. Sit 30 minutes to an hour, then dry patch out. Repeat mops again and dry patch to complete. If the gun will sit awhile before the next shoot, finish with a lightly oiled patch.

If you're not shooting a hand lapped barrel, you may need to scrub a bit with a brush after mopping, but don't spend much effort. Let the chemical do the work.

I spend the waiting times going through my targets, prepping brass and other reloading chores....

If that's not good enough, try boretech eliminator, witches brew or slip2000 copper cutter. These are all very good copper removers. Just don't leave them in the barrel long, or bad things can happen.

 

[dlandis17]

I use bore tech eliminator, best copper remover i have tried have several Remington barrels which seem to foul, bore tech will take down to bare metal make sure you get their jags and plastic brushes