nate-lab
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I am look for the best over all coyote and bobcat gun that will work at all ranges with out to much damage to the pelt
best gun for coyote and bobcats
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Depending on what "All Ranges" means to you...the .204 is quite the pelt saver. I'm pretty sure Remington offers the R-15 in .204 and having a semi is a bonus when hunting predators incase of misses. Mount a nice LR scope up top with a pretty low "starting" power and you have one hell of a Predator Cannon! gun)(That's also easy on the Pelt 
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)devildoc
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An RU-46 space modulator of course! Marvin the Martian knows that when you absolutely must kill a varmint, the laser gun is what you go for.
Seriously, no such thing (as far as I know). And if you figure out how to get a single rifle to perform perfectly across the entire spectrum of hunting conditions that you may encounter, let me know, cause I want whatever you got!
As far as pelt damage goes, there's two options:
1) light bullets goin fast enough to blow apart within the body cavity, thus turning said vermin off while not making huge exit wound. This is tricky, because it the bullet blows up too late you're gonna use your whole roll of dental floss trying to sew up the pelt.
2) FMJ's; non expanding bullets that will roughly make the same size hole going out as going in. Once again tricky, but not nearly as much so as the former as you gotta hit some pretty major bone and blow it apart in order to ruin the pelt. However, you're gonna be trackin' a heck of alot more.
Seriously, no such thing (as far as I know). And if you figure out how to get a single rifle to perform perfectly across the entire spectrum of hunting conditions that you may encounter, let me know, cause I want whatever you got!
As far as pelt damage goes, there's two options:
1) light bullets goin fast enough to blow apart within the body cavity, thus turning said vermin off while not making huge exit wound. This is tricky, because it the bullet blows up too late you're gonna use your whole roll of dental floss trying to sew up the pelt.
2) FMJ's; non expanding bullets that will roughly make the same size hole going out as going in. Once again tricky, but not nearly as much so as the former as you gotta hit some pretty major bone and blow it apart in order to ruin the pelt. However, you're gonna be trackin' a heck of alot more.
long range dogr
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Kudos to you for posting this reply! I also agree that there is no such animal as a "Perfect Rifle'. The best thing about coyote hunting is that one can own many different rifles for different situations.
My fur rifles are allot easier on pelts than my contest rifles are.
lidsplitter
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Hello everyone,
I'm new here as far as posting go's but have had a username for quite sometime. I just had a 204 built last year & have taken 7 yotes with it here in the last couple of months. Everyone has had a pin hole entry with no exit & not a one made it out of there tracks except to do a little spin dance, but expiring within seconds. I'm pushing 39gn blitzkings behind 27.5 grains of IMR-4895. The furthest kill has only been 217 yds. The 204 is way more fur friendly than my .223 has been & the penetration has been far superior so far.I Got a lot of splash wounds from the .223, where the .204 seems to be transfering the energy where you want it, in the animal.
I'm new here as far as posting go's but have had a username for quite sometime. I just had a 204 built last year & have taken 7 yotes with it here in the last couple of months. Everyone has had a pin hole entry with no exit & not a one made it out of there tracks except to do a little spin dance, but expiring within seconds. I'm pushing 39gn blitzkings behind 27.5 grains of IMR-4895. The furthest kill has only been 217 yds. The 204 is way more fur friendly than my .223 has been & the penetration has been far superior so far.I Got a lot of splash wounds from the .223, where the .204 seems to be transfering the energy where you want it, in the animal.
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devildoc
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No doubt that a .204 will do the job out to ~400 in low wind (emphasis on low wind). For long dogs you probably want to move up to the 6/6.5 cartridges though.
cabelas90
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You Heard them the .204 is the way to go id prove it if u and dave didn't get so trigger happy!
nate-lab
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I live in Kansas so wind can be from 5 to 25 mph in a typical day and range would be 0 to 500 yards
500 yards is most likely the farthest shot that would be taken on a coyote or bobcats
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thank you for all the answer that everyone has given so far you have help me find out more on the best coyote and bobcats gun
500 yards is most likely the farthest shot that would be taken on a coyote or bobcats
gun)
thank you for all the answer that everyone has given so far you have help me find out more on the best coyote and bobcats gun
screech
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I hate to say this but I dont think its possible. In my expierenc all the varmit cartridges I have tried, (204,223,22-250,243,6mm) all have there times where they will leave holes or not. I have shot yotes with all of the above and they all work. some leaving largeholes and some blowing up inside. as far as cats i have only shot them with the 204 and 223 with both leaving large exit holes. i have since went with the 17hmr for cats if im wanting pelt preservation. you could try the 17fireball and see if it exits or not. its just my expierence though.
Hello, Im new to this sight, but I saw your question and thought I would give my 2 cents, for what it's worth. I'm a federal trapper in Wyoming and my go to gun is a hevy barrel rem 700 in 220 Swift. This may be one to look at because of the versitility. Wide range of bullets and loads to choose from. Might be something to consider, good luck.
cabelas90
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I would Think that that would be a sweet job! But isnt the 220 swift a little over kill on pelts?
It's funny with a swift. I've killed hundreds of coyotes with diffrent weight bullets and I think alot if the damage depends on where you hit them, how close they are and how heavy a bullet your using. My thoughts with what he was saying are the advantages of a heavier faster bullet at those ranges/ wind conditions. If not for that, then yes I would agree thats probably not the best caliber. I have had to call, snare and trap enough wounded coyotes to say that a little sewing is worth putting them down hard, for sure, first shot. If you wound a coyote and it cant catch it's normal prey, you may well have created a stock killer. Just some thoughts. I wish him the best of luck with what ever he decides to go with.
nate-lab
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gvt trapper your job must be fun
what load do you use and do you hand load you 220 swift
what load do you use and do you hand load you 220 swift
