260shooter
Well-Known Member
How many weight sort magnum brass and how much variation do you accept?
Does it show on paper?
260
Does it show on paper?
260
My mentor and builder is a BR HOF member, world record holder and did very extensive testing on this and concluded that it is a waste of time. After going thru the data with him, I concur with his conclusion.
What brand(s) of brass were used to collect data? What are the details of the extensive testing? What ranges were tested? How many different rifles and calibers were used for the tests? Were they factory and custom chambers? Did the tests conclude that there was a set weight spread in brass that was determined to be a waste of time if sorted? How many brass cases were tested?
260.
This is another subject that has a lot of different opinions.
I learned what little gunsmithing skills I have from a master builder
and bench rest shooter that was so particular that even the color
of the brass made a difference.( he said it was because of the neck
tension that different brass imparted on the bullet even though you
did all the right things, trim,ream,turn,brush etc).
And he said that nothing was a wast of time if you wanted the best out
of a rifle.
I weight sort all of my brass when I get it and store it in batches that are
clearly marked for future use. In my loading data I record the brand,
number of firings, trim length,neck thickness of the brass so that later
I can match the new brass to the old brass. This allowes me to duplicate
my favorite load and not have to start all over with testing .
So that is why I weight sort all of my brass along with all of the other
prep work.
And as boss hoss said it may not be nessary but "All" of my hunting rifles
will shoot under 1/2 MOA and most under 1/4 MOA with the best 4 shooting
.031,.054,.077 and .092 groups. (all of these rifles are hunting rifles and
weigh 8 to 12lbs).
In the pursuit of perfection I leave no stone unturned.
Why build a custom rifle and feed it junk like the factory ammo.
Remember this is just My opinion and others are entitled to theirs so
you must make the final choice.
J E CUSTOM
How many matches, championships, or hall of fames are you a member of?
LOAD TUNING
• Find the Sweet Spot--A load that is too light or too heavy can cause vertical problems. When you've tuned the load right, you should see a reduction in vertical. Even 0.1 grain may make a difference, as will small changes in seating depth.
None. That's why I have a lot of questions. I hope you don't take offense to those who are trying to learn.
But from what you posted, it can be inferred that one bench rest HOF person tested one caliber using one brand of brass of excellent quality and concluded that wt sorting was an absolute waste of time for his test and for his purposes, and thus, this means that all calibers and all brands of brass need no wt sorting in any caliber. That is a truly remarkable conclusion.
I respect the man's abilities no doubt. The comment on sorting brass by capacity is truly, imo, the most accurate weigh to sort if one chooses to do so. Curiously, Mr. Gonzales wrote this regarding vertical stringing:
CURES for VERTICAL STRINGING
Yet as much as 3-4 grains of brass doesn't amount to a hill of beans. It may all be perfectly true. I don't know. That's why I have questions.
I am a 1K guy and ALWAYS load the night before the match. Neck tension is very very important and we want to have a fresh neck set!
I can understand Speedy not wt sorting for 100, 200 yard shooting, maybe even 600. I would have thought a 1000 yard shooter would weight sort. Do you turn your necks like Gonzales?