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Old 02-09-2011, 11:45 AM
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Thank you for that clarification. Now I just have to remember not to weld my barrel shut. But, I can see how easily that could happen. Now I'd like to see some tests where a stick of Acme brand dynamite is inserted into the action in place of the bolt. Since you just never know when this could happen, the relevance is certainly on par with the welded barrel test.
I know that is a little bit (ok, a lot) sarcastic, but hopefully you can imagine why we all think the test was:

A: Entertaining
B: Irrelevant
C: A waist of some fine rifles

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Agree with A and possibly C, but not with B. This was a nice and clear scientific test which can simply gives the consumer solid data about how certain rifles perform in a well defined extreme case. BTW a friend of mine hunted once during winter high up the mountains. As he fired at a roe deer with well proven factory ammo his barrel blew up, fortunately not wounding him gravely. After that shock he asked himself how that could have happened. He had checked the bore after getting out of the car but forgot to tape the muzzle as he usually does. All he can guess that somehow some snow entered the barrel causing a blow-up. His rifle was a Remington btw. So **** can happen, even if you are a careful guy. If this **** happens it is better to have a rifle which performed better in such an extreme test.
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:51 PM
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Thank you for that clarification. Now I just have to remember not to weld my barrel shut. But, I can see how easily that could happen. Now I'd like to see some tests where a stick of Acme brand dynamite is inserted into the action in place of the bolt. Since you just never know when this could happen, the relevance is certainly on par with the welded barrel test.
I know that is a little bit (ok, a lot) sarcastic, but hopefully you can imagine why we all think the test was:

A: Entertaining
B: Irrelevant
C: A waist of some fine rifles

Cheers
Knowing how well a particular rifle deals with a blocked or failed barrel may be irrelevant to you, but not to me.

I myself have had a Rogers & Spencer black powder pistol barrel burst next to me because the shooter accidentally sent one bullet half way up the barrel with the cap, assumed the barrel was clear and promptly shot another up behind it.
I also saw what injuries someone can suffer when a rifle fails, in this case an SLR.

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Old 02-09-2011, 11:13 PM
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I have hunted my entire life. My Dad hunted, his Dad hunted and virtually everyone I know hunts (even my girlfriend). Also, where I hunt the temps can drop down to -26 below zero plus winds at 20-35mph. While it's not exactly the antarctic, it gets pretty extreme some days. I have never, nor has anyone I know, taped their barrel shut. Keeping the end of your barrel out of the mud and snow just goes without saying. (I thought) If a person stays upright and sober, you shouldn't have any problems with barrel obstructions.
It is fun to test one rifle against another sometimes but I don't think I would purchase one weapon over another just because I think it's possible that I might ram a wedge in the end or weld it shut someday.
I have lost count of how many guns I own. (seriously) I handload my ammo and I shoot everything including black powder, black powder cartridges, smokeless cartridges from .22LR, .223, 22-250, 243 Win, 6-06AI, 6.5 Grendel, 7-30Waters, 270 Win, .308 Win, 45-70 Gov. (not including shotguns and pistols) and I've never once thought that someday I'd buy another rifle based on which one takes the most stupidity to blow it up.
On a side note, I saw your list of guns and they are pretty impressive. I'd like to have a Sako someday myself.
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Old 02-10-2011, 07:33 AM
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I have hunted my entire life. My Dad hunted, his Dad hunted and virtually everyone I know hunts (even my girlfriend). Also, where I hunt the temps can drop down to -26 below zero plus winds at 20-35mph. While it's not exactly the antarctic, it gets pretty extreme some days. I have never, nor has anyone I know, taped their barrel shut. Keeping the end of your barrel out of the mud and snow just goes without saying. (I thought) If a person stays upright and sober, you shouldn't have any problems with barrel obstructions.
Hunting is also a big tradition here and this was indeed the only instance of a barrel burst which I knew personally off. He suspects that snow entered the muzzle of the slung rifle when it touched one of the many low-hanging snow-covered branches of the forest or when some of it fell down due to sun densing it.

I personally always tape my rifle lightly, very cheap and very effective in keeping dust, rain and snow out of my barrel. Tested the effect of it on the accuracy and it was pretty much nill.


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It is fun to test one rifle against another sometimes but I don't think I would purchase one weapon over another just because I think it's possible that I might ram a wedge in the end or weld it shut someday.
I have lost count of how many guns I own. (seriously) I handload my ammo and I shoot everything including black powder, black powder cartridges, smokeless cartridges from .22LR, .223, 22-250, 243 Win, 6-06AI, 6.5 Grendel, 7-30Waters, 270 Win, .308 Win, 45-70 Gov. (not including shotguns and pistols) and I've never once thought that someday I'd buy another rifle based on which one takes the most stupidity to blow it up.
I see your point and still I think of it like scotsgun. If this rare piece of **** might happen once to me, be it due to personal stupidity or bad luck I would rather have a solid and safe piece in my hand then one which tends to shrapnel me.
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Wow, that's scary since I have a 700PSS. I guess I'll have to remember not to weld my barrel shut.
I'm with you on this.
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Re: Rifle burst tests, how good is your rifle?

This post keeps coming up and unless everyone reads all of the post there is a lot
lost.

This type of test is self serving and proves nothing except that it is possible to blow up your/Any
barrel if you weld up the barrel or plug it(Duh).

All weapons have a safety factor designed in and if you exceed this it can ruin your day.

Plus as someone said it was a waist of some fine rifles.

If I heard of a batch of 50 to 100 rifles that burst I would not buy any more of that brand but
all brands of weapons have failed at one time or another because someone through neglect
or just not checking the bore before firing blew one up.

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Old 05-29-2011, 10:37 AM
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My three favorite hunting rifles are 700's. I'm more concerned about being abducted by space aliens, while in the mountains, than I am about my guns exploding.
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