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Old 12-01-2009, 10:14 AM
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Re: Hensoldt Storms The US Market By David M. Fortier

Jru ,Well as i just had got off a 12 hour day ,yes the numbers are off it was a 6x24 and the spelling was off. And yes they are the top1 percent of the scopes made.But ive look looked threw a lot of glass and wasn't compelled to say that the glass on the Hensoldt 6x24 was all that. I couldn't see clarity when focusing out long distancees and this is what it is all about CLARITY, not a little spec of dust this was a pretty big BLACK SPOT. You have your opinion of scopes and this was mine. Dont get your underwear in a bunggie...
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:50 AM
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I couldn't see clarity when focusing out long distancees and this is what it is all about CLARITY
I've shot up to a mile, participated in sniper competitions and hunted both day- and nighttime with both Hensoldts and S&B's and I disagree completely with what you're saying. Either you had a lemon for a Hensoldt, didn't get it focused right ( Hensoldts can be particularily picky about diopter adjustment ) or you're just being brand loyal, I don't know which. Nor do I really care but I just like to get it out there that your experience does not represent the general line of Hensoldt users.

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not a little spec of dust this was a pretty big BLACK SPOT
OK now you do realize what a spec of dust looks like when it's magnified? My guess is your black spot isn't actually the size of a pirate ship either.

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No worries my friend, takes a lot more to adjust my underwear
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:30 AM
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Re: Hensoldt Storms The US Market By David M. Fortier

Jru ,, Nice to know you have a good sense of Humor also .I tried to focus the diopter with no success maybe it was a lemon, Loyalty to what works is my only concern. If i was a writer though i"m sure i would of written up a bad review because that's what they gave me , I realize every once in a while your gonna get a turd in the fish bowl. I was hoping to have it work cause i wanted to use it in conjunction with the spotting scope, since they are both set up for mills and you can harmoniously work them together for adjusting easily when shooting competition's and fun shoot"s or Hunting LD...
So what is your choice of Long Distance guns to shoot over there in Finland ?? I'm shooting a Sako TRG42-338 and a 50BMG Accuracy Int. The Sako is a hair splitter and so is the other.I shoot a number of competitions mostly all military bases here in the states and a lot of fun shoots with buddies out west in Wyoming.Woops gotta get my butt to work talk to ya a little later on..Good day
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Old 12-03-2009, 12:46 AM
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Re: Hensoldt Storms The US Market By David M. Fortier

We don't really have a "LRH" tradition here as our forests are thick, 99% of the shots are 200 or closer. The few of us who shoot/hunt long range, shoot pretty much what the rest of the world does; Mostly .308Win, 6.5x284 , 338LM.

I had a TRG-42 ( the 5-25 S&B was on top of that ) but I sold it as it sickened me to see it just gather dust in the gun cabinet. I had it out a couple of times a year for ELR shooting and competitions.

I simply started to think of 338LM as overkill for paper/plate shooting and TRG + S&B 5-25 as too heavy ( 16 lbs ) for a practical carry rifle. These days I prefer the mediums and I think I'm pretty well covered; For our type of hunting ( <500 ) I've got a real tack driver TRG-S 30-06, and for those occasions I get to stretch it a bit, I'll pull out the 7mm RM that will match 338LM trajectory with 168 or 180 VLDs or 175 SMKs. Not too thin for hunting should opportunity arise, and not overkill for plain old paper punching. Your mileage may vary, naturally, but this is where I ended up.

Of course, with the TRG-S there's always the option of going big as it's the 338LM size action. So far I've had zero need, and I sure don't miss the cost of shooting & reloading a 338LM size cartridge...

Sorry for the thread hijack. I'll just conclude we Finns have considerable experience with both Hensoldts and S&Bs and choosing between them should come down to simply a matter of taste over their implementations of key features; DT vs. multi-turn turret, rheostat placement and function, reticle selection, etc.
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Jru ,Well as i just had got off a 12 hour day ,yes the numbers are off it was a 6x24 and the spelling was off. And yes they are the top1 percent of the scopes made.But ive look looked threw a lot of glass and wasn't compelled to say that the glass on the Hensoldt 6x24 was all that. I couldn't see clarity when focusing out long distancees and this is what it is all about CLARITY, not a little spec of dust this was a pretty big BLACK SPOT. You have your opinion of scopes and this was mine. Dont get your underwear in a bunggie...
We have never had a 6-24x56 returned for reticle debris. I did have a 6-24x72 once that had a small spec that was cleaned and returned to one of our IL dealers. Could this be your scope?

The warrany issues have been easy for me to keep up with as there have only been 2 cases out of hundreds of scopes. We have only had a total of 4 scopes returned for repair. 2 for warranty and 2 for negligent damage.

As for the clarity, this has never been a cause for concern when compared to any other brand. There is no doubt that there are other manufacturers that make a good scope as well, but we do have some definate advanges in technology that give us an edge.

Without more details, I really can't speak about your initial experience, but I would invite you to give one another try.

Either way, thanks for the comments.

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Re: Hensoldt Storms The US Market By David M. Fortier

Before I'd buy I have one question. The article was well written and packed with just about every piece of info you'd want from techy to 200 years of world history...BUT, oddly enough at least to me the author states "Up until today the Hensoldt line had been unavailable to American riflemen. For whatever reason, these military products were not offered here". Come on, with all that info collected for the article clearly there are contacts within the circle that know the answer. IMHO it's beyond odd that twice in the article it came up and there was no thought given to find out...or maybe they did and the real answer might not be to politically correct for the average American Shooter. The U.S. market for scopes is huge and it begs the question why didn't they market/sell here?
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Re: Hensoldt Storms The US Market By David M. Fortier

There was certainly no malicious intent toward American shooters... This is an interesting point. I never thought someone might take it that way, so I am glad you brought it up. You must realize that the long range shooting industry has really only developed commercially on a large scale here probably within the last 10 years, give or take a few.

To my understanding a large part of it is due to cultural differences between us and Germany. Carl Zeiss Optronics produces only military and LE products. Military products are simply not sold to commercial users there. The political climate seems to be much more liberal. For almost all German sportsmen and shooters their needs were met by the Sport Optics line.

The Zeiss company is also particular about who they will do business with and before myself there were no suitable companies to partner with to handle importation and distribution.

There are many more reasons than this, but these are the main ones I think.

I hope that helps.

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