Flatline Ops. Inc. ACCU/LEVEL Scope Level Review

[ken snyder]

Folks do not understand that they are not paying for the part, they are paying for the removal of material. Set up, tooling and labor to do so accurately. I think they have their thinking hat on and its not on backwards either. I do have 1 question about the sensitivity of the vial itself, not adjustability, are they comparable to a machineist or engineering levels vial -- my spellering might not be so good, but what the heck!

[midnightmalloy]

Originally Posted by ken snyder

Folks do not understand that they are not paying for the part, they are paying for the removal of material. Set up, tooling and labor to do so accurately. I think they have their thinking hat on and its not on backwards either. I do have 1 question about the sensitivity of the vial itself, not adjustability, are they comparable to a machineist or engineering levels vial -- my spellering might not be so good, but what the heck!

I understand what your saying but there are a lot of things in the gun industry in general that are much over priced. Much of it to me seems like bragging rights. Its like the guys that have the biggest coolest trucks with the best off road lift kit and tires but would crap themselves if there truck got dirty. I just dont think they are going to sell a lot. There is just not enough competition in this part of the industry yet (ACI's and ACD's) that a competitor will come in and drive the price down. Its an item that a lot of guys think that they can do without for the price. I would love one but I think at over $300 for the set up that its just not worth it to me yet. if someone brought this same idea to a machine shop that could mass produce a couple thousand, especially a shop that isnt doing much buisiness with the economy then the price would definatly go down.

[rub]

excellent idea but will fail in the marketplace. nothing new technology wise just putting together some pieces. good product wrong price in an economy in the crapper. OK at $99. of course as stated could put a dancing horse on the hood and see if anyone salutes.

[Coyboy]

Originally Posted by ken snyder

Folks do not understand that they are not paying for the part, they are paying for the removal of material. Set up, tooling and labor to do so accurately. I think they have their thinking hat on and its not on backwards either. I do have 1 question about the sensitivity of the vial itself, not adjustability, are they comparable to a machineist or engineering levels vial -- my spellering might not be so good, but what the heck!

Ken, the housing that holds the vial is hinged. When opened or closed it rest on the point of a SS set screw. Via the screw, the level can be adjusted for perfect horizontal alignment, in the open and closed position. The quality of the components that make up this system are second to none.


I completly understand the objections about the price, but when considering the prices charged for just the standard made clamp on levels, anywhere from $30-$50 bucks. Then deal with the features that are not user friendly, set-up and actually precisly leveling such a unit, blocks the view of the turret or turret blocks the level.

Actually handling the Accu-Level, there is no comparison, USA made quality, strong, finely machined, superbly anodized, SS hardware, 100% user friendly all the little things that cost money to produce. I think this level may not fill the entire market, but there definetly is a place in the market for this unit. Serious LRH who strive for perfection in their set-ups and shooting are going to be all over this thing. I was a little skeptical, but after using the Accu-Level, I definatly see the justification in the price. It is as good as it gets.

[ken snyder]

Thank you coyboy. I can tell it's a high quality set-up just by looking at the pictures and your description verifys that and it is obvious that high quality vials are used. Would it be possible for you to express the vial sensitivity in machineist terms. I know this is an apples and oranges comparison qustion, but here it is-- If I were to stick a piece of note book paper under 1 side of your rifle, how far will the bubble move. 1/4 of a bubble, 1/2 or gone.

[Tikkamike]

Originally Posted by ken snyder

Thank you coyboy. I can tell it's a high quality set-up just by looking at the pictures and your description verifys that and it is obvious that high quality vials are used. Would it be possible for you to express the vial sensitivity in machineist terms. I know this is an apples and oranges comparison qustion, but here it is-- If I were to stick a piece of note book paper under 1 side of your rifle, how far will the bubble move. 1/4 of a bubble, 1/2 or gone.

Well put! I am very interested in this level but your question is one I have definatley overlooked. How sensitive is the thing if that's a bad example jim?

[Coyboy]

The level is not so sensitive that it would show one pc of paper under the bipod leg. If it were, actually leveling the gun could be quite dificult. I was messing with it today and what I did was lock the bipod and just twist the rifle grip with my right hand, as I was in a shooting position. Doing this without lifting the bipod legs the bubble would sway rt or left to the outer edges of the lines with each respective twisting motion. Without rigging up some type of bench secured compass/ gun secured needle device. I'm not sure how to put an accurate degree reading on the bubbles movement between the lines.