Originally Posted by esorensen
The Berger VLD bullet based on flight characteristics alone is in perfect concert in a long range hunting role, even if we dismissed all terminal performance.
In shooting lots of bullets from lots of reputable manufacturers, I have ended up with more yellow boxes on my bench. I cannot remove myself from the confidence they inspire when I pull the trigger. "They go where you point 'em", to quote Walt.
Sorry for the disjointed rant, spelling etc. it's late. It's just my opinion. I've found my magic bullet. Thanks Walt, Eric
Pretty good presentation of information and I won't be overly critical. I'll say that I'm not able to dismiss all terminal performance
, and give one real-life example why. Dead is dead, but some animals won't be recovered without expansion on solid body hits through the lungs, and I suspect the liver also. I broadside dead-centered a Dall ram from 13 yds many years ago with a 280 AI 150 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip - MV ~ 2875 fps. The bullet penciled through with no expansion. The ram moved off 125 yds, bedded down, and was still healthy enough to motor away 30 minutes later. He was above tree-line in the mountains so I was able to observe the physiological response. When I saw small blood spots develop on both sides of the rib cage in the correct locations, I kept expecting the animal to expire at any moment. I finally gave up on the animal expiring and moved up to shoot again. When he saw me approaching at close range he was up and running on adrenaline again. Had this been a bear or many other game animals living in the timber, he would likely have never been recovered shy of the use of dogs. I finished him with a BT that did expand and performed my autopsy during the butchering process on that first hit. Exit hole out the ribcage same size as the entrance in.
I suspect your comment wasn't intended to be taken so literally, and was just part of expressing complete satisfaction with Berger VLD performance.
Don't get me wrong. I'm using VLDs for long range loads. That jaw-shot black bear was the first animal I shot with one. I should mention that three weekends ago I was hunting the same location and I shot a nice boar with a 210 VLD from the same rifle. He was standing about 5 feet from where the jaw-shot sow was the prior spring. This bear was slightly quartering away at 425 yds; the shot was through the rib cage and into the off side shoulder. Much deeper penetration was obtained. Some of the bullet exited in front of the off-side shoulder. This was a substantially larger bear and I never saw the animal so much as twitch after bullet impact. Instant immobilization. So I'm not on any mission to discredit the Berger VLD performance.
I had that first experience with one off the end of my muzzle that surprised me. I've since had two additional experiences on bear and caribou involving farther down range impacts and terminal peformance was devastating & deadly, in line with the majority of results I've read of.