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Old 02-22-2012, 11:02 AM
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Re: Dall sheep or mountain goat - which is a better hunt?

If you are an Alaska resident - the money is the same for goat or sheep if you do it yourself. Sheep hunting is better in Canada than Alaska unless you draw a sheep permit in an intensively managed sheep area (ie Tok) in Alaska. Goats with long fur can be taken off of boat with minimal climbing in December as heavy snows in Alaska push the animals down closer to the beach. Put in for a draw Prince William Sound /Resurrection Bay for the most affordable goat hunt. Having hunted sheep and goats on a yearly basis for the last 25 years in Alaska - I'll take the goat hunt any day - better trophy quality, less competition from other hunters and physically more challenging in most hunt areas. when cooked right, the meat is pretty good as well.
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:00 AM
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Re: Dall sheep or mountain goat - which is a better hunt?

I took a very good mtn. goat in the Cabinet Mountain wilderness Oct. 2011. I was very fortunate to draw a tag for zone 100-00. I did book with a seasoned outfitter as this quite possibly would be my last chance in MT. Thinking that spring, summer and early fall would sufice to get myself, 64 yrs. old, in good condition was a joke. Mtn. goat hunting in the lower 48 is mtn. climbing with a pack and rifle on your back. It was a damn tough hunt that I continue to dream about. Much time was spent climbing very steep slopes thru alders, bear grass and boulder fields. I have not had the chance to hunt sheep as yet. They are on my list. But, I can say that mtn. goat hunting is an adventure. Can be a very difficult and scary adventure for a person that is uncomfortable with heights. Therefore, be careful what you wish for. If you book for either hunt. Get yourself into top condition. By that I mean the best condition you can acheive for your age. Good luck! MTG
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:55 PM
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Re: Dall sheep or mountain goat - which is a better hunt?

Greetings,

My first post at this forum.

In 1996, for my 40th BDay - I gave myself a combination Dall Sheep hunt and Mt. Goat hunt in Alaska. I took a 4 yr loan out of my 401K to finance the trip - the very best money I ever spent in my life - I'm 56 now.

Chugach for the Sheep and Robinson Mts. for the Goat. Hunted out of the Tsiu River Lodge.

On my 9th day of my 10 day hunt I connected with a 36 inch, 13 yr old ram-Tazlina Glacier- and on the 18th day of my 10 day hunt I connected on a 9 3/4 inch billy in the Robinson Mts.

The outfitter - Sam Fejes - let me stay until I got my goat at no extra cost - my goat guide, repelled down the side of the Mt to retrieve the head, hide and meat of my goat.

It was the experience of a lifetime and I've been on a number of hunts since - Alaska-Brown Bear, Africa numerous times including Cape Buff but it is the Sheep/Goat Combo that stands tall above the rest.

I used a Rem 700, SS in 300 Win Mag, 180 partitions with IMR4350 (72.5 grs).

The plane ride back to central PA was smooth as glass - almost like I returned from another place in time - what an experience.

Adios

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Old 05-21-2012, 11:52 PM
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Re: Dall sheep or mountain goat - which is a better hunt?

I like Both, I have been on several Sheep hunts with a friend who is a seasoned Sheep hunter in MT and Alaska, he has some very large impressive heads from both states. I never had a sheep tag, still working on that. I have hunted and shot one high mountain Goat in Montana many years ago. It was the end of November, I wanted a good late season hide, hunting alone, at 3 am I started up the east side of the range, snowshoed up to the ridgeline in deep soft snow with over 3000 feet elevation gain. I then glassed the knife ridge with bare windblown trails that had been worn down by goats for years. I had pre scouted from a road on the other side of the mtns a day before where I had no access due to cliffs and very long round about way to get to the goats that far away. The morning I went up, I watched the sun rise come over an distant mountain range and what a sight that was! But the goats were no where to be seen in the area from the day before. I knew they went north by tracks in windblown snow on the old worn down goat trails of many years that grooved out the loose areas of shale rock on steep slopes. I situated myself on the east side of the knife ridge, out of the strong wind and started glassing when I spotted the small group almost 2 miles away. I was on a long snakelike knife ridge with steep cliffs and huge drops alternating on both sides. There was however a goat trail to follow the entire way with some scrambling up very vertical areas. I found the goats late in the afternoon, located the biggest Billy in the herd as they were headed over the top to a gap and on the other side, a high ledge trail with a vertical drop of dizzying proportions. I knew the area from summer scouting and knew I had to make the shot before they got there or even too close, as the billy could go just over the edge and fall hundreds of feet vertical into a cirque that would have bee very difficult to access. I was in a boulder field when I spotted them ahead of me @ 300 yards. I set up over a boulder, scoped the billies and found the large one, they were moving slow and feeding on lichen on small boulders and rocks about 100 feet from the gap they were working up to. I got a great position on a boulder, set my Zeiss 3x9 on 9, chambered a round and set sights of my 270 on the big billy, first shot just behind the shoulder blade, he shuddered and kept walking, the rest of the herd was in the gap and going over, I shot again, almost in the same spot, he shuddered again and kept walking, I fired once again, another great hit, he fell, rolled a full roll and landed in soft snow. It was getting late in the day, 4 + miles from the truck. I gutted and drug the goat off the gutpile a hundred yards and put it up on a rock to help keep the coyotes from getting to it. I hiked down the backside of the mountain, glissaded with my snowshoes on and ski poles, down the first deep snow covered rock gully, then up a steep side going back and repeated it 3 times getting back to the truck. The ridge was getting too windy to return safely on my approach route. I made it back to town at 11 pm, found a buddy to go back with me the next day to retrieve it. We snowshoed in the way I went back to the truck, found the goat in fine condition with some overnite predator work on the gut pile. We skinned the goat for a rug mount, boned most of the meat, loaded up and headed out. We were exhausted when we got to the truck. My buddy thought I was crazy to go where I did to shoot that goat, but I grew up Skiing, Mtn Climbing, trapping all winter, and hunting hard. It was one of the greatest moments of my life to walk up on that goat! 9 7/8" Long horns, it was a dandy goat! For me, and where I hunted goats and would again, I would say Goat hunting starts where Sheep hunting ends on the Mountain. But Thats just my thoughts. I still want to hunt sheep yet myself too!


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Old 05-22-2012, 01:13 AM
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Re: Dall sheep or mountain goat - which is a better hunt?

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I have hunted and shot one high mountain Goat in Montana many years ago. It was the end of November, I wanted a good late season hide, hunting alone, at 3 am I started up the east side of the range, snowshoed up to the ridgeline in deep soft snow with over 3000 feet elevation gain.
My buddy thought I was crazy to go where I did to shoot that goat, but I grew up Skiing, Mtn Climbing, trapping all winter, and hunting hard. It was one of the greatest moments of my life to walk up on that goat! 9 7/8" Long horns, it was a dandy goat! For me, and where I hunted goats and would again, I would say Goat hunting starts where Sheep hunting ends on the Mountain. But that's just my thoughts. I still want to hunt sheep yet myself too!
Heck of a goat hunting story! Sounds like a hunt I might have tackled before I turned 45. Good for you. And thanks for sharing your hunt with us.
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:34 AM
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Re: Dall sheep or mountain goat - which is a better hunt?

Thanks phorwath, And you are welcome back. it was an incredible tough but rewarding hunt, and I could still do it, but it would be a bit harder than back then! This is the best site Ive seen online, glad to have found it just recently, and very impressed with all the talent and helpful folks here.
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Re: Dall sheep or mountain goat - which is a better hunt?

No question, sheep......I like to eat what I shoot.
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