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Old 09-07-2010, 10:42 PM
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Congratulations on a beautiful trophy. I shot his 36 1/2" full curl twin brother on opening day Aug 10. Picture looks just like the twin to mine. Background even similar. Your experirence with the Berger bullets is why I never use them hunting and would never. I have seen way to much lost game with them. Great target bullets but I spend way to much on trophy hunts each year to jeopardize the hunt by using a poor hunting bullet like bergers.

Again congratulations, that will make a beautifull trophy mount.
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Where any bones hit with either shot? What you had happen is perty much what we had last year with them, just a pin hole though them with no internal damage unless something heavy has hit, even if they opened a little it wasn't the internal grenade action I was expecting. The 243 and 270 cals cut loose a cloud of Berger death but have yet to get that action with the 30 cals.

I think those rams are one of the nicest looking animal!! Some day I'll get to wander up there and cut loose on one, maybe I can retire up there
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Where any bones hit with either shot?
Interesting and thanks for sharing your experiences with the VLDs.

Nothing more for bone could possibly have been hit with the first shot other than one of the smaller back thin ribs on the entry side. Truth is I didn't confirm if the bullet connected with a rib or passed between them.

The second shot barely clipped the edge of one shoulder blade. As with the first shot, I didn't confirm whether or not a rib was hit on the entry side.

I guess I didn't study the bullet hitting ribs part because I require my bullet to open hitting nothing more than hide and flesh. I don't want to have to destroy the front shoulders of my sheep by targeting the shoulder bones. Dall sheep aren't that large and they're the best eating wild game species available in Alaska, IMO.

We've had pretty good experiences with the 7mm 168 VLDs, but have only taken a few game animals with the 168s so far.
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I shot his 36 1/2" full curl twin brother on opening day Aug 10.
Congrats to you too. Have you posted a picture of your ram? Go for it if you haven't!
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The second shot barely clipped the edge of one shoulder blade. As with the first shot, I didn't confirm whether or not a rib was hit on the entry side.

I guess I didn't study the bullet hitting ribs part because I require my bullet to open hitting nothing more than hide and flesh. I don't want to have to destroy the front shoulders of my sheep by targeting the shoulder bones. Dall sheep aren't that large and they're the best eating wild game species available in Alaska, IMO.
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From what I've cut and examined the meat behind the shoulder is enough to get them opened up but the meat between ribs is really only like 3/4 of an inch of resistance compared to a couple inches behind the shoulder. We shot a doe last year in nearly the exact same spot as your first and I could not find the hole till I stretched out the hide and the hole in the carcass was just a tiny slit between the ribs.

Just more info to try to get a picture of how these bullets function or what it take to get them to, I really like to check out terminal performance, it's part of the hunt for me to see how everything worked.

I'm surprised that Dall sheep is so good, I've had some Bighorn and it was akin to bubble gum without the good flavor.
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Nice work, phorwath, and thanks for the info!
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I really like to check out terminal performance, it's part of the hunt for me to see how everything worked.

I'm surprised that Dall sheep is so good, I've had some Bighorn and it was akin to bubble gum without the good flavor.
I too like to perform an autopsy when the conditions are more favorable. We salvage the entire hide intact on Dall sheep for sale for full body mounts. Taxidermists will purchase them. Then we're trying to keep the meat as clean as possible. Plus we're trying to get off the mountain and back to shelter before dark. Time is often of the essence. So after we had our packs loaded up, we were off. Last meat to be salvaged are the tenderloins. That's when we open the abdominal cavity - after the hide has been completely removed and all of the rest of the meat has been collected. That's when I was able to confirm the lack of bullet damage to the internals from the first shot.

Here's what the carcass looks like when we've completed field butchering on these backpack hunts:



Based on this photo, I can now say that the second bullet never broke a rib on the entry side. I enlarged this photo on my desktop and see no evidence of a broken rib on this exposed side. I don't recall a broken rib on the entry from the first shot either, but it would be on the opposite side in the above photo.

Never had Bighorn sheep meat, but Dall sheep meat is top notch in tenderness and flavor. Melts in your mouth...

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